Alias S2E22 - Sleepy Pizza

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Hello Internet.

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This is last time on.

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This is the podcast where we pick a show.

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None of us have seen.

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Watch the pilot, roll some

ice, skip some episodes.

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Try to figure out what the

hell happened last time on.

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I'm fair.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I am Ben and you are listening to the

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only podcast on the internet where one of

the hosts is currently not here because

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he has to pack to go to Fight Gal Tron.

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Behold gal

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Close enough.

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I wasn't gonna say where he was going.

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I dunno.

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I wasn't sure if that'd be rude or not.

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Uh, but yeah, Vic is, uh, heading out

to Gavels Ton for the weekend, so is

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packing right now and unable to make it?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

he, he's, he's pooping, he's,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yes.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

gods.

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He said, Hey guys, I'm gonna be

pooping for the next three hours.

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You have to record without me.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

And I understood.

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You know, I've been there,

we've all been there.

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So, uh, he did send us predictions,

so we'll get those on record.

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Uh, but we're rocking at old school today

with just Ben and I, uh, yeah, alias.

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It is classic LTO.

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Um.

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We've got season two,

episode 22 in front of us.

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This is our fourth episode of Alias.

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How are you feeling about this show?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I will tell you.

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Something happened to this episode

that made me very, very excited.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

for us,

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uh,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

clearly have missed some shit.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

but also, uh, I really want to

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know when, when people were being

cast for this show, did they know.

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How far off the rails it was going to go.

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Like when JJ Abrams is talking

to Carl Lumley, he's like,

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alright, we're making a spy show.

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He's like, I can do that.

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I can do spy show.

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Is he getting here to the

end of the season two?

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Just like being like, what

the hell is all of this shit?

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

There's a 400 year orchid.

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What's going on?

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What's a Aldi?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

It's the worst fucking McGuffin name.

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Uh, this, this episode shows just how

clearly off the rails this show has gone.

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And we have three seasons, and

I know it's gonna get crazier.

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And I'm loving it.

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I don't know that I would like the show

as much watching it in a normal format.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Stuff has happened in between

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like just inside season two where

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

this would've taken a whole season arc.

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And they're like, fuck you, Ben.

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We did it in an episode.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, I've got some guesses as to

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some things and how they went down.

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I'm curious what your thoughts are,

but a lot has happened in between

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our last episode and this episode

because we opened in LA at a CIA

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office and I paid a lot of attention.

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I don't know if you were paying

attention to everyone's badges.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

The badges tell us who works where.

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Like I know that Terry O'Quinn works for

the FBI because he's got an FBI badge,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

everyone else here has CIA badges

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except for a couple NSA badges, which

we'll talk about when we get to it.

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But Marshall has an CIA badge.

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SID has a CIA badge.

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Like they They are, yeah.

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They, they are out of SD six.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

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So Jair, I'm sure some sort of

idea because we get this little

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cute bit where it's not even like

Marshall is newly out of SD six.

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He's already chummy.

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Chummy with Weiss.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And asking for dating advice.

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Uh, and so I'm sure you came up

with some idea of how Marshall got

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here, but I don't want to hear that.

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I want to get weird with it.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Okay, so I will state, because it's my,

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literally my next line of notes that,

uh, I think that they brought everyone

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over at once and they just closed SD six.

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And most of them don't know that they

were working for an evil company.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Oh.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Instead of the CIAI think they just

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like, Hey, we're closing this branch.

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We're moving you all here

now let's have a pizza party.

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Like just normal office stuff.

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Um.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Everybody just took some sleepy pizza

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woke up at the CIA.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Sleepy pizza, man.

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I wish they would surf

that at work anyways.

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If we wanna get weird with it

though, uh, I think we need some

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more agencies involved in this track.

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I don't think it's a straight

line from fake CIA SD six to CIA.

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I'm gonna say, let's say,

let's get weird with it.

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Um, I'm trying to think of a foreign

intelligence agency that would be

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believable but also is not one that I

don't want to say on air on this podcast.

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'cause there's a couple I don't wanna even

get on the radar of am I six, we'll say

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MI six was involved and uh, they were all

in England and something happened to their

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old branch and they all got informed.

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That they'd be moving over here now.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

All right.

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Well, I like that, but I

don't think it's weird enough.

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So

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

along with

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

What do you got?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

pizza, they were trying to like,

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Hey, we need to move, you know,

we need to move Carl Lumley over.

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Like, he's got skills we need.

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Marshall just showed up

there saying like, you guys.

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I, I, I put trackers in all

of the coffee every day.

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Are, are, are we working here now?

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just showed up,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Ben, that doesn't work.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

it's me, Marshall from work.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

You put a tracker in the coffee.

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It's outta my system in four hours.

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Ben, you gotta put it in something else.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

See, the thing is

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I like the idea though.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

You have it in, in the coffee long enough

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that it just permeates into your system.

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Um, it,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

So good.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

of like poisoning a little bit over time.

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It's, Hey, after you've had

20 cups of coffee, I can track

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you inside of a mountain.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: It's,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

But we get a, a fun little bit here

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

mm-hmm.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

is really trying to give

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Marshall some like dating advice

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

and Marshall just like.

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Ignores him, steps up, walks

away, runs over to Sid because,

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uh, who has escaped Jair.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, Irene has escaped

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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And so we

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: mama.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

are involved in this group because

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they seem to run the prison.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

the US Marshals are not

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in any of the meetings.

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'cause they, they keep letting people

escape from what should be, like, how

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do you escape from a plexiglass room?

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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Uh, they've got these, like, they're

not identical cells, but very

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similar cells as a plot point in the

current airing TV show, alien Earth,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

have like a xenomorph in one of these

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hanging out while they're like in the lab

next to it doing experiments and shit.

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So I feel very secure about these things

as long as there's not some mal factor

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sabotaging them from Wayland Yutani,

and I don't see that in this storyline.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

You know what?

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I wouldn't be surprised if season three

is like, Hey, we've gotta stop this

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alien, and we find out that Irene's

last name is actually wta uh, Yutani.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Let's see.

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Yeah.

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So after we, uh, have all this going

down at the CIA slash FBI slash

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Federal Marshal's office, I assume

most of the branding on the walls is

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cia, so I assume it's a CIA office.

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Uh, we cut over to the besties.

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Well, Terry O.

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Quinn is in charge and he is an FBI man.

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But that does not mean

the FBI is in charge.

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He might just be the senior dude for

whatever he might be just like a liaison

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to make sure they're not fucking up.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

because they're doing stuff

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on US soil, technically it has

to be under FBI supervision

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

CIA is totally wink,

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not allowed to operate.

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Wink, wink on us soil, wink, wink, wink.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

So I see now I was thinking

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it's because Terry O.

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Quinn knows they're all former

SD six and doesn't trust them.

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And so this is the FBI's way because

if someone were, were to investigate

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the CIA, it would be the FBI and so I

assumed he was there as more of a like

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babysitter to make sure that the SD six

people don't turn out to be SD six people.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Anyways, uh, after this we cut

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over to the, uh, the besties

in a hotel room, hiding out.

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Uh, the CAA knows nothing.

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This is a, this is a quite the turn here.

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Bradley Cooper is beat up.

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We don't know what's going on.

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We get little bits and pieces.

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I'm curious, Ben, what's the over

under on Ninjas being involved

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in Bradley Cooper's injuries?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Uh, I'm gonna say.

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I'm gonna say three to one.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Three to one I, I'd take those thoughts.

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Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

so that is of $3.

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Will will get you $1.

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I don't, it's not outside

of the realm of possibility.

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Like it's not a bad horse racing bet,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

it's also not like if you had said,

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Hey, what if it was, you know, SWAT

goons, I'd be like, oh, that pays out.

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You know, uh, pays out a lot better or a

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

than ninjas, but.

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Uh, we, we also get will

being like, I'm a murderer.

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I killed two guys.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Mm-hmm.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Fran's just like, Hey, nah

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man, like you did, it's fine.

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I'm like, is Francie evil now?

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Um,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Fra Francy is evil.

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Now they're talking about the double.

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Yeah.

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Francy is the double, whatever that is.

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Um, we don't get a lot of details on it.

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The, the, it resolves

itself kind of quickly.

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I mean it very, at least the nature of

it, like, I don't know if we, the audience

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has not known Franzi was the double

up until this point if we were aware.

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Um, hard to say.

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There's a couple ways you can play that,

but Sid's mom, uh, hacks the planet

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and lets the CIA people know that, uh,

Bradley Cooper is not the, uh, the double.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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Uh, and she's about to poison

stab will when random cops

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come in and shoot immediately.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Nineties, well, I guess

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early two thousands.

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Um, yeah.

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Uh, yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

immediately, they're like,

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oh, will, it wasn't you.

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And I'm like, that was 30 seconds.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Right.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

a lot more.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: This

must have been going on for episodes,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

is the vibe I get.

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Um.

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Uh, Sid goes to talk to Bradley

Cooper in the jail cell, and there's

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no more secrets between them.

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You know,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: it's,

uh, it's all on the up and up it seems.

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Now, uh, Vaughn and Sid after

this are hanging out at an

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ice rink after a practice.

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They do be a thing now.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, they smooching, kiss.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

They smooch kiss, uh, Vaughn

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leaves, his mom shows up.

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She needs Sid to handle some shit

with Sloan and Irene reveals here

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that her ruse, ruse, ruse was a ruse.

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It was all to get the Bolly

artifacts from Sloan, but that in

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fact is a ruse as she betrays Sloan.

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Uh, at the behest of the, uh, to be

after his betrayal of the Alliance of 12.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: This,

I sound confused, and this sounds like

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a mess because this is a confusing mess.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And I was just writing in my notes

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while she was explaining this.

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I was just like, sydnee hit

her with the hockey stick,

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hit her with the hockey stick.

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then Sydnee does try to do that and

immediately gets her ass handed to her.

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And her mom's like, and I'm really

sorry about this, but punch to the face.

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Um.

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But it seems like Sloane has now.

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So to fair, I want to ask, do you

think the Alliance of 12 has been

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destroyed is it still out there?

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Um,

I'm gonna guess that it's like maybe an

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alliance of like three or four dudes now.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, I think Sloane took

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a bunch of these guys out.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, I'm gonna guess that the ones

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that are left are consolidating

their power, but will be around

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enough to be a plot point later.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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And here we get Francie in all leather.

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So we know that she's evil.

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Meeting with Sark, who was Sloan's

number two guy, and we find

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out that Francie got face off.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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I picked the wrong Rumi to be a spy.

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Sorry, Vic.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

yep.

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But.

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is, this is so funny 'cause

this is exactly face off.

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Like, hey, we had the technology to turn

you into somebody else, but then the

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technology got blown up so you're stuck.

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Uh, it's just, this is

the plot of face off.

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It's like looking in a mirror only.

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Not.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

It's not plastic surgery

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or something in that one.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Well, it is like crazy inden

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intense plati plastic surgery.

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Plus we change your DNA and everything,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Oh, wow.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

then Nicholas Cage blows up the place.

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Well, to be fair, Nicholas

Cage as John Travolta 'cause

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

So John Travolta's character wearing

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Nick Cage's face blows up the place.

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Nicholas Cage wearing John.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

wearing Nick John Travolta's

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face, uh, that that movie I,

John Travolta and Nicolas Cage

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need more credit for that movie.

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It's, it's an insane acting

decision like acting exercise.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: do

they act like the other dude really well?

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Okay.

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That's fun.

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That might be worth watching.

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It's like that's the only reason you

do that conceit as a plot, right?

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Like it's to let John Travolta

and Nick Cage pretend to be

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each other for a couple hours.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

It's super fun.

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Uh, we find out that nobody

tells the FBI nothing,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

NSA lost all of their, their stuff.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Did you catch NSA head, by

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the way, Jonathan Banks?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Jonathan Banks.

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That makes this show

like Canonically, LTO.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

also because spoiler alert Jonathan

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Banks gets shot in a few minutes.

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It's like that also

makes it canonically LTO.

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We need, if we have a Jonathan

Banks, he's gotta die.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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: 00:16:04

Uh, so, uh, we see a couple more

people here from the old SD six days.

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They all have CIA badges on.

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Uh, so everyone here is CIA, except

for Jonathan Banks and Terry O.

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Quinn

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

up chips.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

your idea that like Marcus does

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not know he was ever a bad guy

and he's just like, uh, it's a

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new CIA office, and they're like,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I'm no longer, well, it's like they

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were in like a deep undercover thing

where they couldn't tell their spouses

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that they were CIA agents, right?

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That was like part of the gig.

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: 00:16:36

Maybe it's just all like, Hey,

you're not undercover CIA anymore.

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You're doing normal stuff now.

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You can tell your spouse

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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He's like, this is

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

there's upsides.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And nobody's like, you were

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a terrorist for 20 years.

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: 00:16:53

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Well,

I feel like most of them didn't know.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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: 00:16:57

We then get Will and Weiss, well, uh, will

is trying to find out who is Ag g Doran.

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This is a

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

recognize.

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: 00:17:06

Well Weiss is, is doing bad

closeup magic in the background.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yes.

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This is fun.

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: 00:17:15

Um, but also, uh, it's just like, did

you catch that Will also has a CIA batch?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I figured that that was a guest.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

It's not.

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It's a normal, it says agent.

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I paused.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I mean, that might be a props error.

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: 00:17:37

We have no way of knowing If it isn't,

who the fuck are you letting just on

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your computer with classified shit on it.

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That's a problem.

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: 00:17:46

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Well, and so he also has

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information that nobody else has,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I think last time on in

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his role as a journalist.

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Uh, will accidentally stumbled upon

some old secret, like sixties and

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seventies, uh, CIA black ops stuff,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:18:05

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

and that is what got him

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pulled into all this.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

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: 00:18:09

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

set off every alarm bell for both

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: 00:18:12

SD six and the CIA and SD six was

of course, just like, kill him.

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And the CIA was like.

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mean, he could probably kill

him, but Sidney's like, no,

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like Sydnee,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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: 00:18:29

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Right.

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: 00:18:29

And it's like we do this other places.

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: 00:18:34

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, we get a little bit here

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: 00:18:36

afterwards, uh, where Marshall gets

Felicity's roommate to go along when

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Jack starts sending people to Zurich.

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: 00:18:43

That's fun.

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: 00:18:45

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Is this a reference to something?

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: 00:18:47

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Felicity.

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: 00:18:48

The, the, the show.

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: 00:18:50

The show JJ Abrams did before this one

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: 00:18:53

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Oh,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

with Carrie Russell, that

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: 00:18:55

was her big breakout role.

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: 00:18:56

Green gr.

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Greg Gru.

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: 00:18:59

Greg Gruenberg was also in that.

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: 00:19:00

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

of course he was,

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: 00:19:02

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Um, this agent that Marshall is

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: 00:19:05

hitting on is Greg Greenberg's.

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: 00:19:08

I think they get married.

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I think they date for most of that show.

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: 00:19:11

I don't, I haven't seen Felicity,

but I'm vaguely aware of it.

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: 00:19:14

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

That makes it very funny that

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: 00:19:15

Greg Gruberg is giving Marshall

tips on how to woo her then,

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: 00:19:20

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Exactly.

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: 00:19:20

That's why, that's why I bring it up.

425

: 00:19:22

Yeah.

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: 00:19:22

It's, it's, it's layered.

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: 00:19:23

It's very funny.

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: 00:19:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

But we find out that this one

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of these girls, that Also's name

was tied to the DNA evidence that

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: 00:19:31

absolved will this, uh, ag dorin,

431

: 00:19:34

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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: 00:19:34

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

also died in a car accident like Irene.

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: 00:19:38

So, seems

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xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Huh?

435

: 00:19:39

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

car accidents do not kill

436

: 00:19:41

people in this world.

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: 00:19:43

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yes.

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: 00:19:43

Lots of fake death car accidents,

which I guess, you know, if you're

439

: 00:19:48

gonna fake your death car accident's

probably a pretty grizzly way to do it.

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: 00:19:54

I mean, you want something that destroys

a body and destroys enough property

441

: 00:19:58

to be investigated, but not enough

property to be thoroughly investigated.

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: 00:20:03

You know, like a, a whole

building burns down.

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: 00:20:06

It's a very different scenario.

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: 00:20:08

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:20:09

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: I,

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: 00:20:09

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Canoe accident is my plan.

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: 00:20:11

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: hmm.

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: 00:20:14

I'd believe that for you.

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: 00:20:15

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

we then cut over to Zurich,

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: 00:20:17

where, uh, our, our heroes are

getting a Hummer at the gate.

451

: 00:20:22

Uh, and they bust into an

empty warehouse full of garbage

452

: 00:20:27

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:20:30

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

drop in.

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: 00:20:31

It's a fake, uh.

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: 00:20:35

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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: 00:20:36

Irene's Ruse.

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: 00:20:36

Ruse Ruse was a ruse.

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: 00:20:39

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yep.

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: 00:20:41

And the only part that Sloan

doesn't have is at an NSA office.

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: 00:20:45

And they, they're like,

well, we gotta move it now.

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: 00:20:47

And it's like, or just keep it here.

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: 00:20:49

Like keep it the fuck here.

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: 00:20:51

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Well, they're moving it to a naval

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: 00:20:53

base because it is more secure.

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: 00:20:56

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

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: 00:20:56

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

That is, that is the line that they

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: 00:20:58

say that's why they have to move.

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: 00:20:59

It is, it has to be more secure

than where it is currently.

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: 00:21:04

Uh,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

But Jack gets grabbed and

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: 00:21:06

Jonathan Banks gets shot.

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: 00:21:09

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, we find out at the debrief

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: 00:21:11

they took the heart and dad

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: 00:21:14

I know writers who use subtext

and they're all cowards.

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: 00:21:18

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

uh, cut over to Sloan Taunting Jack,

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who is assembling the telling a

classic Thrombal, we're all familiar.

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: 00:21:26

We don't have to talk about what it does.

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: 00:21:28

Yeah.

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: 00:21:28

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

pieces, you

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: 00:21:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, everyone knows,

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: 00:21:30

everyone knows is from Baldi.

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: 00:21:32

Uh, so they're not going

to explain it to us either.

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So it's a good thing Ben and I being men

of culture know what this is already.

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Otherwise, as audience

members, we might be lost.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

for sure.

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: 00:21:44

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Anyways?

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: 00:21:49

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

uh, so it is some sort of machine.

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: 00:21:51

It gets crazy clanging, uh,

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: 00:21:53

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: yeah.

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: 00:21:53

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

later on.

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: 00:21:54

Uh, but we, uh.

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Cut back to busy work.

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Everybody's looking for

every clue they can find.

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And Marshall gets a kiss on the cheek.

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: 00:22:05

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Sure does.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

but then will realizes Ag Doran is francy.

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: 00:22:12

Uh,

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: 00:22:15

Irene, uh, calls and apologizes.

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: 00:22:18

Uh oh man.

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: 00:22:20

They must have switched the crates on me.

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: 00:22:22

And it's

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: 00:22:23

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

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: 00:22:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I don't believe you, but.

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: 00:22:26

of course they did.

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: 00:22:27

They're spies.

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: 00:22:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yes.

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: 00:22:29

Irene says her ruse, ruse, ruse, ruse.

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: 00:22:32

Wasn't a ruse.

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: 00:22:33

Just a ruse.

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: 00:22:33

Ruse, ruse.

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: 00:22:34

But is this a ruse?

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: 00:22:36

Ruse?

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: 00:22:36

Ruse, ruse, ruse,

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: 00:22:38

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

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: 00:22:39

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: yeah.

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: 00:22:40

I believe it is.

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: 00:22:41

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

any other name.

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: 00:22:42

Uh.

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: 00:22:43

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Maybe we should move to

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: 00:22:44

like exponents or something.

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: 00:22:47

I don't know.

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: 00:22:48

We'll figure it out later.

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: 00:22:50

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

But we get a clip or a a, uh, a tip.

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: 00:22:53

Hey, there's a club in Stockholm

and this is where Sar Sark, who

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: 00:22:57

is Sloan's number two, who was Mo

Mackinac Fake Frank, uh, Francy.

526

: 00:23:02

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Mm-hmm.

527

: 00:23:03

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

be in Stockholm for some

528

: 00:23:05

reason at this club.

529

: 00:23:07

And so Vaughn and Sid had out there.

530

: 00:23:11

Two.

531

: 00:23:11

And Jair, I am admittedly anti club.

532

: 00:23:17

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah,

533

: 00:23:17

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

are not my thing.

534

: 00:23:19

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

never have been.

535

: 00:23:20

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

is this the worst club you have ever seen?

536

: 00:23:27

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: No,

537

: 00:23:28

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Oh God.

538

: 00:23:30

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

it's bad.

539

: 00:23:31

Um, no.

540

: 00:23:32

We had, we had a worst

club on this podcast.

541

: 00:23:40

Um, what was the show before the last one?

542

: 00:23:47

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Um,

543

: 00:23:49

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Viper, Viper had a worse club than this.

544

: 00:23:53

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Uh, Viper did

545

: 00:23:54

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: It,

546

: 00:23:55

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

lower production values.

547

: 00:23:56

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: it

was, I think it was the finale where, uh,

548

: 00:24:01

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Oh, where they had the,

549

: 00:24:03

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Jack, Joe.

550

: 00:24:04

Mike?

551

: 00:24:05

Yeah.

552

: 00:24:06

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

553

: 00:24:07

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

554

: 00:24:08

Joe, Mike, Joe, Mike

Jo Jack, or something,

555

: 00:24:12

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

556

: 00:24:13

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

combination we were at, at that

557

: 00:24:14

point, that club that he was

in was a worse club than this.

558

: 00:24:19

Thank you.

559

: 00:24:24

I'm starting to notice a pattern

with my jokes on this show.

560

: 00:24:31

He did the same joke

about three times already.

561

: 00:24:34

I don't think it's funny anymore.

562

: 00:24:36

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Do you think Joe, Mike, Tom, Joe,

563

: 00:24:37

Mike should join, uh, the, the

564

: 00:24:41

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

This branch of the CIA

565

: 00:24:44

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Like, does Sid need a driver?

566

: 00:24:46

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

probably,

567

: 00:24:48

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, but they, uh, then

568

: 00:24:50

in this awful, awful super

brightly lit, uh, Stockholm bar.

569

: 00:24:56

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: yeah.

570

: 00:24:56

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

star, snatch snatch Sark.

571

: 00:24:59

And he's just like, uh, apparently

he shot Vaughn like, I'm

572

: 00:25:05

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

573

: 00:25:05

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

nice and just starts smashing

574

: 00:25:07

his head into the table.

575

: 00:25:11

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I'm guessing Vaughn was

576

: 00:25:12

recovering for episodes.

577

: 00:25:14

It seemed like a not

incidental kind of gunshot.

578

: 00:25:19

Uh, he's pretty upset.

579

: 00:25:20

He is spaghetti.

580

: 00:25:21

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

is in Mexico City.

581

: 00:25:24

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yes.

582

: 00:25:26

Yes.

583

: 00:25:28

Uh, we also find out the alti is

just an overfilled washing machine

584

: 00:25:33

as it clanks from the other room.

585

: 00:25:35

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

You gotta balance that shit, man.

586

: 00:25:38

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: So

many people don't level their washing

587

: 00:25:40

machines, and this is what happens.

588

: 00:25:42

It's so important, not level to

the concrete, actually level.

589

: 00:25:48

So important guys.

590

: 00:25:51

It's, I will not turn this into

a Home Improvement Tips podcast.

591

: 00:25:55

I promise.

592

: 00:25:58

They raid the building.

593

: 00:26:00

Sloan goes to make his escape, and Vaughn

gets in a shootout with Sloan's Goons.

594

: 00:26:06

Here, Vaughn and Sid, uh, Irene shoots

the guards, but only after Sloane Escapes.

595

: 00:26:11

I thought that was suspicious.

596

: 00:26:13

Uh.

597

: 00:26:13

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Also, we find out here,

598

: 00:26:15

Vaughn also left-handed.

599

: 00:26:19

So Sid, what's going on here?

600

: 00:26:22

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Huh.

601

: 00:26:23

Got a type.

602

: 00:26:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, we also, uh, get a, a bit here

603

: 00:26:28

where I was, I was immediately when

they sent them into the basement and

604

: 00:26:32

SAR is like, here's the code you've

gotta put when it's a four digit code.

605

: 00:26:36

Like, come on guys.

606

: 00:26:37

Um, but also it's the four digit code to

your super secret, like I am betraying

607

: 00:26:43

both the CIA and the uh, Alliance of 12.

608

: 00:26:48

You should have a code that turns

off the alarm and then a code that

609

: 00:26:54

turns all of the lights green,

but also alarms us silently.

610

: 00:26:59

Like this should have been a,

a false, like, Hey, it makes

611

: 00:27:02

it look like everything's cool

and you walk into a trap code.

612

: 00:27:06

If Sloan wasn't dumb,

that's what this would do.

613

: 00:27:10

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Well as it is, is the second

614

: 00:27:11

they turn off the alarms, it's

like, oh, well the power's out.

615

: 00:27:14

We know what's going on.

616

: 00:27:15

There's no jumping of anyone.

617

: 00:27:17

They've, they know immediately.

618

: 00:27:19

Um,

619

: 00:27:20

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

we have Vaughn.

620

: 00:27:22

Go Chase Sloan.

621

: 00:27:22

I'm after my mom

622

: 00:27:24

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: yeah.

623

: 00:27:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Irena, uh, diehards off this roof.

624

: 00:27:30

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Well, after going on a bit about

625

: 00:27:32

how the prophecy was not about

her, the prophecy was about Sid.

626

: 00:27:38

Whoa, there's a prophecy and a chosen one.

627

: 00:27:43

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Irina, you ruined the prophecy.

628

: 00:27:50

He,

629

: 00:27:51

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

is not granted the rank of master

630

: 00:27:53

as her mom jumps off the building

with a bungee, shoots some windows

631

: 00:27:58

and climbs in a middle level.

632

: 00:28:00

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

with a grappling hook, which

633

: 00:28:01

again, I want a grappling hook,

634

: 00:28:06

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Ugh,

635

: 00:28:07

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

but

636

: 00:28:07

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: this

seems like a great way to break your back.

637

: 00:28:10

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

oh, 100%.

638

: 00:28:13

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Ugh.

639

: 00:28:15

Yep.

640

: 00:28:16

Uh, let's see here.

641

: 00:28:19

Oh yeah, jumping off

the building was a ruse.

642

: 00:28:21

That's in my notes.

643

: 00:28:22

Okay.

644

: 00:28:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I did have a thought here when, when she

645

: 00:28:25

jumps through the window, they're like

any, for some reason in a jam packed

646

: 00:28:29

episode, they take the time to be like

any agent who's free go after Irena.

647

: 00:28:33

And Weiss is the only one who's

like, I can do this right after,

648

: 00:28:37

earlier in this episode, talking

about how he got shot and how it had

649

: 00:28:41

taken him like months to recover.

650

: 00:28:44

Oh no.

651

: 00:28:44

Weiss is getting shot again.

652

: 00:28:47

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

We don't even get that though.

653

: 00:28:48

It's just, we just cut to the condo.

654

: 00:28:51

Yeah, it's just over.

655

: 00:28:52

Uh, we go to the, the besties condo

here where Bradley Cooper finds the

656

: 00:28:58

drugs and finally puts it all together

that, uh, Francie is the devil.

657

: 00:29:03

As Francie finds the rest of the

evidence that will has, uh, he

658

: 00:29:07

gets stabbed for his trouble.

659

: 00:29:10

Sid gets home just in time to find

Francie has almost cleaned up or

660

: 00:29:14

already cleaned up the kitchen.

661

: 00:29:16

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

662

: 00:29:17

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Uh,

and so they're just sitting eating ice

663

: 00:29:19

cream as she listens to her voicemail.

664

: 00:29:21

She plays it cool here,

but not cool enough.

665

: 00:29:26

Fight breaks out in the condo.

666

: 00:29:28

This is fun.

667

: 00:29:30

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And, uh, Victor, just so you know,

668

: 00:29:33

the count is 1414 spin kicks.

669

: 00:29:38

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: They

warf every piece of glass in this place.

670

: 00:29:41

Mr.

671

: 00:29:42

Warf, do you know Gilbert and Sullivan?

672

: 00:29:44

No, sir.

673

: 00:29:45

I have not had a chance to meet all the

new crew members since I have been back.

674

: 00:29:49

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

For sure.

675

: 00:29:50

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, there's so many kicks and these

676

: 00:29:53

hallways are tight, so there's some

that aren't even full spin kicks

677

: 00:29:57

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Nope.

678

: 00:29:57

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

they're

679

: 00:29:57

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I

680

: 00:29:58

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

just making it work.

681

: 00:29:59

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

spin

682

: 00:30:00

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

683

: 00:30:01

There's a full, like back flip

kick in here too at one point.

684

: 00:30:05

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

some kip ups.

685

: 00:30:06

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, it's crazy.

686

: 00:30:09

Uh, they fight for a while until, uh,

Sid just shoots the shit out of Francy.

687

: 00:30:16

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

688

: 00:30:19

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, just,

689

: 00:30:20

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

yeah.

690

: 00:30:20

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

goes crazy.

691

: 00:30:21

Just puts three in her.

692

: 00:30:24

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Also mid fight scene.

693

: 00:30:25

We find dead will in a bathtub.

694

: 00:30:28

Um,

695

: 00:30:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

696

: 00:30:29

Will's not looking good.

697

: 00:30:30

Will's looking like his

kidneys on ice and off camera.

698

: 00:30:33

Uh, it's bad, bad news for him.

699

: 00:30:36

Uh, Sid passes out after this,

uh, and my notes say, girl, you

700

: 00:30:41

need to call an ambulance, uh,

as she wakes up in an alley.

701

: 00:30:46

Uh, but as we kind of get in focus here,

we realize she's in different clothes.

702

: 00:30:50

She's healed from the fight,

and she's in Hong Kong.

703

: 00:30:54

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Blue screen Hong Kong.

704

: 00:30:56

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yes, she calls Terry Quinn, who

705

: 00:31:00

gets her to go to a safe house.

706

: 00:31:03

Uh, she's got scars and no idea what's

going on, and she's made to wait for,

707

: 00:31:07

I'm guessing hours until Vaughn walks in.

708

: 00:31:12

Vaughn tells us that Will is alive.

709

: 00:31:15

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

710

: 00:31:16

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

And then when he is doing this, we

711

: 00:31:17

notice that Vaughn has a wedding ring.

712

: 00:31:19

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Did you notice before she mentioned it?

713

: 00:31:21

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

714

: 00:31:22

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I did as well.

715

: 00:31:23

Yeah.

716

: 00:31:23

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah,

well they, they did a really like poignant

717

: 00:31:26

shot with it to make sure that you saw it.

718

: 00:31:29

Um, and we got a time jump two years now.

719

: 00:31:35

I knew this was coming,

720

: 00:31:37

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Oh.

721

: 00:31:38

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I think I actually said this on an

722

: 00:31:41

episode of who are You, uh, uh, when

we had the Battlestar time jump.

723

: 00:31:47

That there, that was like the second

biggest time jump in TV history at

724

: 00:31:52

the time, the first being alias.

725

: 00:31:54

Um, and they, they did it

a couple years beforehand.

726

: 00:31:58

Um, alias is famous for this time jump.

727

: 00:32:01

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Okay.

728

: 00:32:01

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: I

know nothing about it besides it ahead

729

: 00:32:03

of time jump, and I very poignantly

did not make any time jump based

730

: 00:32:08

predictions because I knew what happened.

731

: 00:32:10

Uh, out of fairness.

732

: 00:32:12

Um.

733

: 00:32:13

Man, I think I even, I'm pretty

sure I called it, I don't know if

734

: 00:32:16

it made the edit, but I'm pretty

sure in that conversation I had

735

: 00:32:18

with Laura when recording that

episode, I had mentioned Alias.

736

: 00:32:21

Had a time jump in there as well.

737

: 00:32:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Gotcha.

738

: 00:32:24

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Uh,

739

: 00:32:24

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I did not remember it.

740

: 00:32:27

I didn't notice like, Hey,

this is the one show Jaff Fair

741

: 00:32:30

hasn't guessed about a time job.

742

: 00:32:33

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

yeah, I.

743

: 00:32:34

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

you having having the honor, sir.

744

: 00:32:37

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Of course, uh, you know, I, I had

745

: 00:32:39

never seen the show, but I did

famously know, or I knew fame, it

746

: 00:32:43

was famous rather, four a time jump.

747

: 00:32:45

So, uh, no time jump predictions for me,

even though I make one every other show

748

: 00:32:49

we fucking do because I love a time jump.

749

: 00:32:52

Uh,

750

: 00:32:53

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

one thing I want to bring up though,

751

: 00:32:55

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: yeah.

752

: 00:32:55

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

two back to back fights here.

753

: 00:32:57

Our first is Will and Francie and.

754

: 00:33:01

Before Will gets stabbed

755

: 00:33:03

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

756

: 00:33:04

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

did Francie try to kill Will with?

757

: 00:33:08

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Oh well, will had the knife.

758

: 00:33:10

What did Francie have?

759

: 00:33:12

I don't remember.

760

: 00:33:13

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Came up behind him with a garot and

761

: 00:33:17

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: okay.

762

: 00:33:18

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

in the, in the same vein of.

763

: 00:33:20

Fake Hollywood, uh, schizophrenia.

764

: 00:33:23

This was a fake Hollywood

garrote a garrote isn't something

765

: 00:33:28

you use to strangle someone.

766

: 00:33:31

It takes your goddamn head off

767

: 00:33:34

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

It's very sharp wire.

768

: 00:33:35

It's piano wire.

769

: 00:33:36

Yeah.

770

: 00:33:36

It's supposed to be.

771

: 00:33:37

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

enough.

772

: 00:33:38

You put enough pressure

on it, at the very least.

773

: 00:33:40

It is cutting your, uh, your vocal cords,

your, your, uh, all of the meat, uh, all

774

: 00:33:48

of your, uh, arteries and everything.

775

: 00:33:50

It takes your head off.

776

: 00:33:53

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

777

: 00:33:53

It's, it's, it's violent.

778

: 00:33:56

Yes.

779

: 00:33:57

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

780

: 00:33:58

And so for Will to just be like, ah.

781

: 00:34:00

I'm just like, nah, man, your

head's already at your ankles.

782

: 00:34:04

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, you cut your fingers off

783

: 00:34:05

trying to do this with a garrote.

784

: 00:34:08

Uh, yeah.

785

: 00:34:12

Huh.

786

: 00:34:12

Well that's the episode, Ben,

787

: 00:34:14

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

788

: 00:34:14

And that's the end of season two.

789

: 00:34:16

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

the end of season two.

790

: 00:34:19

How you feeling about alias?

791

: 00:34:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I am not gonna lie to you.

792

: 00:34:23

Fair.

793

: 00:34:24

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

794

: 00:34:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I'm confused as him.

795

: 00:34:30

I thought I was getting a two

thousands spy movie or spy

796

: 00:34:35

show with some spin kicks.

797

: 00:34:37

I assumed I'd get some intrigue.

798

: 00:34:39

Of course, I knew

there'd be some KGB guys.

799

: 00:34:42

Uh,

800

: 00:34:43

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Should have picked Dark Angel.

801

: 00:34:44

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

802

: 00:34:45

What?

803

: 00:34:46

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Dark Angel should have picked.

804

: 00:34:48

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, seen that though.

805

: 00:34:51

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, yeah, but it's been forever.

806

: 00:34:55

I don't know if it's got enough episodes.

807

: 00:34:56

It only ran for two seasons.

808

: 00:34:57

I'd have to check.

809

: 00:34:59

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I mean, we did Briscoe.

810

: 00:35:01

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah,

811

: 00:35:01

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

we want.

812

: 00:35:02

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I I would have to adjust the formula.

813

: 00:35:05

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

in half,

814

: 00:35:06

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

815

: 00:35:06

That's how math works.

816

: 00:35:07

Just divide it in half.

817

: 00:35:09

You just begin, you do the math, you solve

one problem, and you solve the next one

818

: 00:35:16

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

whatever dice it says, you

819

: 00:35:17

just make 'em half as big.

820

: 00:35:19

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

821

: 00:35:21

Yeah.

822

: 00:35:22

Just throw some D threes.

823

: 00:35:23

Fuck it.

824

: 00:35:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I should have known better.

825

: 00:35:26

JJ Goddamn Abrams

826

: 00:35:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yep.

827

: 00:35:30

You mean the guy who did Cloverfield

might not like explaining plot points?

828

: 00:35:36

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

and I was fine with not explaining stuff.

829

: 00:35:39

I just figured it would be

spy shit and not magic shit.

830

: 00:35:45

If you would've told

831

: 00:35:46

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Even

his Star Trek movie is fucking magic shit.

832

: 00:35:50

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah, if you would've told me before this

833

: 00:35:51

that there was a prophecy, I would've

said, maybe I'm picking something else.

834

: 00:35:57

But now that I know there's a

prophecy, I am real interested to

835

: 00:36:04

see how the rest of our experiment

with this goddamn show goes.

836

: 00:36:08

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, maybe we should have done

837

: 00:36:09

Remington Steel or something.

838

: 00:36:11

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

oh.

839

: 00:36:11

Remington Steel would be super fun.

840

: 00:36:13

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yeah, we'll see.

841

: 00:36:15

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

on the list.

842

: 00:36:17

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

843

: 00:36:17

I wanna order some dice.

844

: 00:36:19

Oh, go ahead.

845

: 00:36:20

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

you fair?

846

: 00:36:21

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Yes, ma'am.

847

: 00:36:22

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I'm a gambling man.

848

: 00:36:23

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

849

: 00:36:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

How would you like to gamble?

850

: 00:36:27

Two of our points.

851

: 00:36:30

So whatever we have at the end of the, uh,

end of the se, end of the series, two of

852

: 00:36:36

our points go from one of us to the other.

853

: 00:36:38

I'm giving you the over under.

854

: 00:36:41

That's all, all you're picking.

855

: 00:36:43

we get another episode

with 14 or more spin kicks?

856

: 00:36:50

If you say yes, and we get

that, you get two of my points.

857

: 00:36:53

If you say yes and we don't, I

get two of yours and vice versa.

858

: 00:36:58

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

859

: 00:37:00

14 or more.

860

: 00:37:01

So 14 is the, is the number.

861

: 00:37:03

It's we're tying ac, we're not beating.

862

: 00:37:05

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

meet or beat

863

: 00:37:07

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

14 spin kicks.

864

: 00:37:09

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I

865

: 00:37:09

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

That's gotta happen.

866

: 00:37:10

Oh, wait, wait, just Sid.

867

: 00:37:14

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

in the fight.

868

: 00:37:16

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

869

: 00:37:16

Regardless of who's spin kicking.

870

: 00:37:18

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

the other person.

871

: 00:37:19

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

872

: 00:37:20

Yeah, that'll happen.

873

: 00:37:21

That'll happen

874

: 00:37:22

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And

875

: 00:37:22

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

in wait in a, in a fight, or in

876

: 00:37:24

an episode In a single fight.

877

: 00:37:27

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

in a single fight,

878

: 00:37:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I need good definitions on

879

: 00:37:32

what a single fight is like.

880

: 00:37:34

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

combatants without a, a

881

: 00:37:38

elongated, uh, break in between

882

: 00:37:42

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Gimme a number minutes.

883

: 00:37:43

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

four minutes.

884

: 00:37:45

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Hmm.

885

: 00:37:48

Okay, now I gotta think about it.

886

: 00:37:50

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Because that gives us enough

887

: 00:37:51

time to do like a fight, then a

scene, then go to our commercial

888

: 00:37:54

break, come back to more fighting.

889

: 00:37:57

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

890

: 00:37:58

Yeah.

891

: 00:37:58

'cause yeah, if they cut away to

other people, that doesn't count.

892

: 00:38:01

If they're still fighting.

893

: 00:38:02

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

but

894

: 00:38:02

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Yeah.

895

: 00:38:03

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

like four minutes of us on screen.

896

: 00:38:06

I.

897

: 00:38:07

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

898

: 00:38:08

Without fighting.

899

: 00:38:10

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

900

: 00:38:11

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Okay.

901

: 00:38:12

Because like if a fight were to fear

hypothetically last an entire episode,

902

: 00:38:15

but we only went to it every 15

minutes, but it's still the same fight.

903

: 00:38:19

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yeah.

904

: 00:38:22

The, the people involved in the

fight have to have four minutes

905

: 00:38:26

of screen time not fighting.

906

: 00:38:28

resets the clock.

907

: 00:38:31

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I will take that bet, Ben.

908

: 00:38:32

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Alright.

909

: 00:38:32

You're taking the over.

910

: 00:38:34

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I'm taking the over, uh, I'm

911

: 00:38:36

pretty confident right now.

912

: 00:38:38

I am swimming in points at the moment.

913

: 00:38:40

Uh, right now I've got zero

predictions marked wrong and

914

: 00:38:46

many predictions marked correct.

915

: 00:38:48

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Mm-hmm.

916

: 00:38:49

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Everything else is still up in the air.

917

: 00:38:50

I have, uh, I mean I, my entire

first episode's worth my, those

918

: 00:38:55

six points are gonna be floating

until we hit season four.

919

: 00:38:58

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Right.

920

: 00:38:58

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, so we'll see how that all goes.

921

: 00:39:03

But yeah, no, I'll take that bat.

922

: 00:39:05

1414 spin kicks.

923

: 00:39:07

Let's do it.

924

: 00:39:08

That sounds fun.

925

: 00:39:10

Alright, well I should roll some dice.

926

: 00:39:12

I wonder if I'll roll a 14

that's mathematically possible

927

: 00:39:14

on this 3D six and 1D four.

928

: 00:39:24

That is a 10.

929

: 00:39:25

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

All right.

930

: 00:39:26

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Skipping 10 episodes brings us

931

: 00:39:29

to season three, episode 11.

932

: 00:39:32

Full disclosure,

933

: 00:39:36

Sydney finally learns the

shocking truth of her missing two

934

: 00:39:40

years from an unlikely source.

935

: 00:39:44

We're gonna find out what happened.

936

: 00:39:46

I guess we're just

skipping all that chaff.

937

: 00:39:51

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Okay.

938

: 00:39:53

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: I

guess it's time for some predictions now.

939

: 00:39:56

Thinking, what are you doing up there?

940

: 00:39:59

Guessing, I guess.

941

: 00:40:03

No one's coming.

942

: 00:40:03

I have seen into the future.

943

: 00:40:06

You ruined the prophecy.

944

: 00:40:08

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

All right.

945

: 00:40:08

I'll go first this time.

946

: 00:40:10

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Uh, okay.

947

: 00:40:11

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

So my, uh, daytime prediction coming out

948

: 00:40:16

of our time jump, will, is now a spy.

949

: 00:40:19

He's

950

: 00:40:20

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

would say he's or I, I mean, okay.

951

: 00:40:23

A spy.

952

: 00:40:23

Spy.

953

: 00:40:24

'cause he already works at the cia.

954

: 00:40:25

A

955

: 00:40:26

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I don't think he does.

956

: 00:40:27

I just think he has a badge.

957

: 00:40:29

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

I mean that you don't, you get a

958

: 00:40:31

badge by working at the CIAI have a

Department of Defense vendor badge.

959

: 00:40:40

Not a Department of Defense badge.

960

: 00:40:43

They are different.

961

: 00:40:45

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

I don't think the props department cared.

962

: 00:40:48

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Fair.

963

: 00:40:50

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Uh, my evening prediction is Sydney

964

: 00:40:53

will come across an artifact that is w.

965

: 00:40:56

It has the ability to

send her back in time.

966

: 00:41:00

And we have an episode that shows

her, like, you can go back and be with

967

: 00:41:04

Vaughn before he marries whomever.

968

: 00:41:06

Uh, and she's tempted,

but decides not to use it.

969

: 00:41:11

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Ooh,

970

: 00:41:12

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

And, then my prime time

971

: 00:41:14

prediction is Sloan gets Raiders

972

: 00:41:18

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

like melted.

973

: 00:41:19

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

full

974

: 00:41:20

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

by an artifact.

975

: 00:41:22

By an artifact.

976

: 00:41:23

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

Yes.

977

: 00:41:25

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Presumably a Aldi.

978

: 00:41:26

Not, not, I mean, I, I, it's not

gonna be the Ark of the Covenant.

979

: 00:41:29

I mean, it might be,

maybe that was a Aldi.

980

: 00:41:31

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

know what?

981

: 00:41:32

I would not put it past this

goddamn show to be season fours.

982

: 00:41:35

Like you thought M

artifacts were the shit.

983

: 00:41:37

Well, what about, you know,

gusto, trus, skin artifacts?

984

: 00:41:41

They're the real shit.

985

: 00:41:45

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

All right.

986

: 00:41:46

Victor texted us his predictions,

uh, before, so we'll read

987

: 00:41:49

those for the listeners.

988

: 00:41:50

His daytime, we never

see Bradley Cooper again.

989

: 00:41:54

His evening goons with lasers.

990

: 00:41:59

That seems to look a safe bet.

991

: 00:42:00

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

want goons with

992

: 00:42:01

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908: Hmm.

993

: 00:42:01

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194902:

laser beams on their head.

994

: 00:42:03

xhafer--he-him-_1_09-19-2025_194908:

Prime time.

995

: 00:42:04

Sydney fights a copy of herself, either a

full on clone or someone disguised as her.

996

: 00:42:12

Okay.

997

: 00:42:13

That's pretty chosen

oney, so I'll take that.

998

: 00:42:16

That seems like a good one.

999

: 00:42:17

Uh, daytime Francie comes back.

: 1000

00:42:21,379 --> 00:42:22,449

Seems like a Jimmy.

: 1001

00:42:22,926 --> 00:42:25,536

-: 2025

I had, I had that, I wasn't sure about it.

: 1002

00:42:25,536 --> 00:42:25,566

I.

: 1003

00:42:26,854 --> 00:42:30,694

-: 2025

Uh, evening we will watch an episode.

: 1004

00:42:31,129 --> 00:42:36,439

With Irene where she does

not have a ruse on sydnee,

: 1005

00:42:38,601 --> 00:42:40,006

-: 2025

I'd take the under on that one.

: 1006

00:42:41,749 --> 00:42:42,829

-: 2025

you're gonna take the under on that one.

: 1007

00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:46,699

You're gonna, my next pick is impossible.

: 1008

00:42:47,149 --> 00:42:50,959

Uh, I, in fact, I'm gonna say I

want four points for this primetime

: 1009

00:42:50,959 --> 00:42:53,089

pick because it's so absurd.

: 1010

00:42:54,216 --> 00:42:54,836

-: 2025

Let me hear it first.

: 1011

00:42:56,044 --> 00:42:58,474

-: 2025

Sydney was hurt so bad in the two years.

: 1012

00:42:58,594 --> 00:43:00,814

She has lost the ability to spin kick.

: 1013

00:43:04,551 --> 00:43:04,881

-: 2025

Then this

: 1014

00:43:05,014 --> 00:43:05,224

-: 2025

: 1015

00:43:05,271 --> 00:43:06,376

-: 2025

not worth watching anymore.

: 1016

00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:08,966

-: 2025

bonus point, she gets it back.

: 1017

00:43:09,458 --> 00:43:12,198

-: 2025

Uh, she, we get a spin

: 1018

00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:13,518

kick training montage.

: 1019

00:43:13,921 --> 00:43:14,211

-: 2025

: 1020

00:43:14,396 --> 00:43:16,916

We, we missed a spin

kick training montage.

: 1021

00:43:16,916 --> 00:43:17,126

Yeah.

: 1022

00:43:17,726 --> 00:43:19,346

Or maybe we'll get it in this episode.

: 1023

00:43:19,346 --> 00:43:19,736

I don't know.

: 1024

00:43:20,456 --> 00:43:23,456

Uh, that those are my predictions.

: 1025

00:43:23,698 --> 00:43:24,088

-: 2025

That does.

: 1026

00:43:24,088 --> 00:43:24,928

So J Fair,

: 1027

00:43:25,346 --> 00:43:25,796

-: 2025

: 1028

00:43:26,068 --> 00:43:27,868

-: 2025

on your prediction, I do want to know

: 1029

00:43:28,738 --> 00:43:30,238

what do you think happened to Francie?

: 1030

00:43:30,238 --> 00:43:32,758

Is Francie alive or is Francie dead?

: 1031

00:43:34,796 --> 00:43:38,666

-: 2025

I think that they killed Francie to

: 1032

00:43:38,666 --> 00:43:43,316

replace her and that this is some

surgical DNA, like she has to take

: 1033

00:43:43,316 --> 00:43:46,016

some drugs to continually pass, right?

: 1034

00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:46,753

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1035

00:43:46,826 --> 00:43:48,086

-: 2025

Um, to be.

: 1036

00:43:48,641 --> 00:43:51,131

Shape changed or whatever

the hell's going on.

: 1037

00:43:51,551 --> 00:43:55,421

Uh, and I think the expectation was

that they killed Francie in order to

: 1038

00:43:55,421 --> 00:44:00,551

stop her from showing up as Francie,

uh, when they put their spy in place.

: 1039

00:44:01,571 --> 00:44:05,561

Uh, but I do think that we will see

actual Francie, not clone Francie,

: 1040

00:44:06,273 --> 00:44:06,563

-: 2025

Okay.

: 1041

00:44:07,558 --> 00:44:08,038

I did

: 1042

00:44:08,081 --> 00:44:08,801

-: 2025

assuming clone,

: 1043

00:44:08,848 --> 00:44:09,118

-: 2025

I,

: 1044

00:44:09,761 --> 00:44:11,321

-: 2025

assuming real Francy exists.

: 1045

00:44:11,411 --> 00:44:12,131

'cause fuck if we know.

: 1046

00:44:13,708 --> 00:44:15,208

-: 2025

I did imagine like, oh, okay.

: 1047

00:44:15,208 --> 00:44:16,528

We absolutely got like.

: 1048

00:44:17,533 --> 00:44:21,493

Do gunshots ring out and Francie falls

over dead in a parking garage and we're

: 1049

00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:23,563

like, oh my God, who killed Francie?

: 1050

00:44:23,563 --> 00:44:24,973

Why would anybody kill Francie?

: 1051

00:44:24,973 --> 00:44:29,503

And then Francie steps out from behind

a box van and we're like, what the fuck?

: 1052

00:44:29,563 --> 00:44:29,953

And then

: 1053

00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:30,291

-: 2025

: 1054

00:44:30,823 --> 00:44:32,683

-: 2025

like, I was like, that is, I'm

: 1055

00:44:32,683 --> 00:44:34,813

sure what happened last time on.

: 1056

00:44:35,501 --> 00:44:35,881

-: 2025

for sure.

: 1057

00:44:35,881 --> 00:44:36,721

That makes sense to me.

: 1058

00:44:37,941 --> 00:44:40,406

All right, well that's the episode.

: 1059

00:44:40,983 --> 00:44:41,623

-: 2025

Yeah.

: 1060

00:44:42,296 --> 00:44:43,556

-: 2025

Uh, that's our episode.

: 1061

00:44:44,156 --> 00:44:47,516

So we just have a couple thank

yous left to say like, Hey, ripe,

: 1062

00:44:47,608 --> 00:44:48,208

-: 2025

game day.

: 1063

00:44:48,596 --> 00:44:51,356

-: 2025

it is Play the game day when

: 1064

00:44:51,356 --> 00:44:52,136

you're listening to this.

: 1065

00:44:52,136 --> 00:44:55,196

Their album will have been out

for several days, but as we're

: 1066

00:44:55,196 --> 00:44:57,026

recording it, it dropped today.

: 1067

00:44:57,026 --> 00:44:58,346

Did you get a chance to listen to it yet?

: 1068

00:44:58,768 --> 00:44:59,278

-: 2025

I have,

: 1069

00:45:00,446 --> 00:45:00,871

-: 2025

What'd you think?

: 1070

00:45:01,738 --> 00:45:03,178

-: 2025

I am enjoying it.

: 1071

00:45:03,508 --> 00:45:10,918

Uh, I will say I, it seems a lot

happier than the LA than bright blues.

: 1072

00:45:11,878 --> 00:45:12,748

Uh, bright Blues

: 1073

00:45:12,806 --> 00:45:13,496

-: 2025

: 1074

00:45:14,578 --> 00:45:16,678

-: 2025

uh, songs that kind of had a

: 1075

00:45:16,678 --> 00:45:18,568

sublime feel where it's like,

: 1076

00:45:18,981 --> 00:45:19,271

-: 2025

: 1077

00:45:19,408 --> 00:45:21,718

-: 2025

is peppy, but sad.

: 1078

00:45:22,648 --> 00:45:26,968

Uh, and I don't know why I

resonate to that kind of music.

: 1079

00:45:27,013 --> 00:45:27,233

Uh,

: 1080

00:45:29,668 --> 00:45:32,098

uh, so I've, I've been enjoying it.

: 1081

00:45:32,098 --> 00:45:35,548

I'm gonna need to get through

the album a couple of times,

: 1082

00:45:35,548 --> 00:45:37,108

but I'm excited to do that.

: 1083

00:45:37,108 --> 00:45:38,278

I've enjoyed everything.

: 1084

00:45:39,583 --> 00:45:44,953

found out because of

a track on that album.

: 1085

00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:49,363

Oh, dang it, I'm blanking on the name.

: 1086

00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:50,953

Uh, ado.

: 1087

00:45:51,733 --> 00:45:56,533

Found out what an ADO is, which

is espresso served over ice cream.

: 1088

00:45:57,021 --> 00:45:57,181

-: 2025

Mm-hmm.

: 1089

00:45:57,523 --> 00:45:58,663

-: 2025

Now that we have an espresso

: 1090

00:45:58,663 --> 00:45:59,473

maker, I'm just like,

: 1091

00:46:02,291 --> 00:46:03,971

-: 2025

You know, I haven't made one for

: 1092

00:46:03,971 --> 00:46:09,101

myself either, despite also having

the same espresso machine and

: 1093

00:46:09,101 --> 00:46:13,781

I've got some nice vanilla bean

espresso or ice cream hanging out.

: 1094

00:46:14,531 --> 00:46:17,801

That might be, that might be

my tomorrow morning scoop.

: 1095

00:46:19,226 --> 00:46:19,306

Hmm.

: 1096

00:46:20,136 --> 00:46:20,426

Okay.

: 1097

00:46:20,981 --> 00:46:22,811

I think I have, yeah, that sounds good.

: 1098

00:46:23,383 --> 00:46:25,693

-: 2025

Thank you ripe for giving me the beatus.

: 1099

00:46:28,106 --> 00:46:30,296

-: 2025

for letting us use Goon Squad as our theme

: 1100

00:46:30,296 --> 00:46:32,036

song, we appreciate the hell out of it.

: 1101

00:46:32,036 --> 00:46:33,026

Go listen to play the game.

: 1102

00:46:33,493 --> 00:46:33,763

-: 2025

Hell

: 1103

00:46:33,896 --> 00:46:34,766

-: 2025

I've, I've, I've listened to

: 1104

00:46:34,766 --> 00:46:36,836

about half of it and I dig it.

: 1105

00:46:37,256 --> 00:46:41,576

Uh, I would say I think my favorite

album from them right now is

: 1106

00:46:41,576 --> 00:46:43,466

still Joy in the Wild Unknown.

: 1107

00:46:44,186 --> 00:46:46,406

Um, I really like bright blues as well.

: 1108

00:46:46,766 --> 00:46:50,486

Uh, fucking the fact that

bright Blues didn't get a, uh,

: 1109

00:46:51,026 --> 00:46:52,556

Grammy no as a fucking crime.

: 1110

00:46:53,233 --> 00:46:53,308

-: 2025

it is.

: 1111

00:46:53,426 --> 00:46:55,556

-: 2025

Uh, but, uh, play the game.

: 1112

00:46:55,586 --> 00:46:56,306

Really enjoying.

: 1113

00:46:56,696 --> 00:46:58,766

I, there's lots of musical homage on it.

: 1114

00:46:58,916 --> 00:47:02,336

There's lots of, like, this

is us doing a Paul Simon song.

: 1115

00:47:02,336 --> 00:47:05,096

This is us doing that kind

of stuff, and I love it.

: 1116

00:47:05,606 --> 00:47:06,236

It's a good time.

: 1117

00:47:06,296 --> 00:47:06,956

Go give it a listen.

: 1118

00:47:07,948 --> 00:47:08,278

-: 2025

Yep.

: 1119

00:47:08,488 --> 00:47:17,668

And, uh, please make sure you go

to, uh, voice cast dot uh, what?

: 1120

00:47:17,668 --> 00:47:18,373

Shoot, what is it?

: 1121

00:47:19,136 --> 00:47:20,546

-: 2025

Uh, slash lto.

: 1122

00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:21,146

I don't know.

: 1123

00:47:21,566 --> 00:47:23,696

Vic handles this and we

couldn't even check it.

: 1124

00:47:23,936 --> 00:47:25,586

We, I don't even know if

someone could have left one.

: 1125

00:47:25,586 --> 00:47:26,066

I don't know.

: 1126

00:47:26,186 --> 00:47:28,016

We don't know, so,

: 1127

00:47:28,048 --> 00:47:31,738

-: 2025

it's voice cast slash lto.

: 1128

00:47:32,008 --> 00:47:32,938

Leave us a message.

: 1129

00:47:32,938 --> 00:47:34,408

Please do it for Victor.

: 1130

00:47:34,468 --> 00:47:36,808

He's fighting gal Viron for you.

: 1131

00:47:37,321 --> 00:47:37,671

-: 2025

right.

: 1132

00:47:38,188 --> 00:47:38,218

-: 2025

Uh,

: 1133

00:47:38,561 --> 00:47:40,541

-: 2025

It's not for him, it's for you.

: 1134

00:47:40,781 --> 00:47:41,261

Listener?

: 1135

00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:42,971

Uh,

: 1136

00:47:43,588 --> 00:47:45,838

-: 2025

And please, please leave us a review.

: 1137

00:47:46,316 --> 00:47:46,606

-: 2025

: 1138

00:47:46,828 --> 00:47:47,398

-: 2025

about us.

: 1139

00:47:47,848 --> 00:47:50,338

Every time we've told somebody

about this podcast idea,

: 1140

00:47:50,338 --> 00:47:51,508

they've gone, Hey, that's neat.

: 1141

00:47:51,958 --> 00:47:54,448

So hey, maybe your friends will care.

: 1142

00:47:55,296 --> 00:47:55,586

-: 2025

: 1143

00:47:55,618 --> 00:47:56,398

-: 2025

those numbers up.

: 1144

00:47:57,256 --> 00:47:57,546

-: 2025

: 1145

00:47:57,628 --> 00:47:58,228

-: 2025

the discord.

: 1146

00:47:58,228 --> 00:47:59,158

It's a fun time.

: 1147

00:47:59,496 --> 00:48:00,191

-: 2025

The discords.

: 1148

00:48:00,191 --> 00:48:00,581

Great.

: 1149

00:48:00,581 --> 00:48:01,451

Go listen to cool girls.

: 1150

00:48:01,451 --> 00:48:02,531

Don't look at explosions.

: 1151

00:48:02,531 --> 00:48:04,241

They do what we do, but funnier.

: 1152

00:48:04,241 --> 00:48:06,191

They're doing Walker,

Texas Ranger right now.

: 1153

00:48:06,778 --> 00:48:07,798

-: 2025

I am mad we're not doing

: 1154

00:48:07,798 --> 00:48:09,028

Walker, Texas Ranger.

: 1155

00:48:09,176 --> 00:48:11,186

-: 2025

I am not fuck Walker Texas Ranger.

: 1156

00:48:11,923 --> 00:48:12,013

-: 2025

I

: 1157

00:48:12,026 --> 00:48:14,216

-: 2025

got no interest in watching that show.

: 1158

00:48:14,786 --> 00:48:15,656

I've never seen it.

: 1159

00:48:15,716 --> 00:48:17,876

Well, if, if you've seen it

anyway, so you couldn't do it.

: 1160

00:48:18,553 --> 00:48:19,663

-: 2025

I've, I have not seen,

: 1161

00:48:19,723 --> 00:48:21,883

like I have not seen it.

: 1162

00:48:21,883 --> 00:48:23,983

I'm just, I've, I'm aware of it.

: 1163

00:48:24,133 --> 00:48:25,213

There, there it is.

: 1164

00:48:25,483 --> 00:48:28,123

Walker is the kind of show

where there is no through line.

: 1165

00:48:28,123 --> 00:48:29,533

There is no continuity.

: 1166

00:48:31,136 --> 00:48:31,676

-: 2025

Wouldn't know.

: 1167

00:48:32,366 --> 00:48:35,126

But what I do know is that

we'll see you next week.

: 1168

00:48:35,126 --> 00:48:35,576

Internet.

: 1169

00:48:37,394 --> 00:48:38,774

That's the wrong tagline.

: 1170

00:48:38,821 --> 00:48:41,251

-: 2025

All, and we'll see you next time on.

: 1171

00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:42,151

Last time on.