LTO 30 Rock - The Fruitcake of Sitcoms
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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Hello and welcome to last time on.
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:This is the podcast where we pick a show.
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:None of us have ever watched,
skip some episodes, figure out
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:what happened last time on.
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:We're not doing that today.
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:Victor is still moving.
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:So it's Ben and I once again.
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:, But we did find a thing to watch
that we were able to make happen.
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:, We found an episode of 30
Rock with Paul Giamatti.
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:He's in it for about five
minutes, but, but that's 30 Rock.
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:, And thought it'd be fun
to just do this instead.
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:, I did check a little bit.
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:I didn't dig deep because I didn't want
to see numbers of episodes and stuff,
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:but I did try to see if any of the,
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:. Cast of billions were an entourage
and I couldn't, couldn't see that.
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:We should be back to regularly scheduled
programming for the foreseeable future.
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:Victor is moved in as of today
and is currently unpacking, so
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:shouldn't be a problem going forward.
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:Hopefully is unpacking to your
God when you're listening to this.
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:On Tuesday.
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:Victor, please be unpacking.
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:But yeah, so we're watching 30
Rock Season five, episode two.
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:When it rains, it pours today.
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:Did you, have you seen 30 Rock Ben?
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I have seen 30 Rock.
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:I absolutely love 30 Rock.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
30 Rock is so good.
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:There's like.
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:In that timeframe.
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:That was like the golden age of the
modern golden age of sitcoms, I guess.
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:'cause there was a previous golden age
of sitcoms and then there was like the
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:nineties where, you know, you had Seinfeld
and friends and stuff, but there was a
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:generation of sitcoms where we had like
this, , scrubs was around the same time.
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:How I met your mother
was around the same time.
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:New Girl was around the same time.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
And of those shows.
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:I know how I met Your
mother has not aged well.
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:I think you've gone back and
tried to watch Scrubs and believe
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:has said it did not age well.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Some bits didn't age well.
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:But
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah,
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Scrubs is the show that,
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:I have seen the most,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
uh.
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:Back in college, I had the first
five seasons and myself and all of my
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:roommates were watching through them.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
so if, you know, I was in the middle
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:of season four, but my roommate was
in the middle of season two and he put
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:it on, I just sat down and watched it.
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:, So I've seen scrubs all the way
through s several, several times.
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:, But there's a few bits
that don't age super well.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
it's not too bad.
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:How met your mother's rough
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
by today's standards.
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:, This show I have not gone
back and watched in about.
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:Probably seven or eight years.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
well I did note in my, in my notes, oh,
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:this is the first Alec Baldwin thing
I've seen since he killed somebody.
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:Uh,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Oh yeah, that happened.
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:, I will say New girl has held up excellent.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
good.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I, I've been casually enjoying a
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:rewatch as Beth is rewatching it
right now as her current, uh, show.
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:And I haven't seen anything
that's made me go, oh God, yet.
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:So very, very happy with new girls.
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:Still very funny, but
this show is hilarious.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes, I have always
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:loved Tina Faye's shtick
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I, the only thing that like
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:is cons, like concerning is
just like, is Tracy too dumb?
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Um.
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:I don't know Tracy Morgan to
know if Tracy Jordan is too dumb.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
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:It it, in this episode we'll get to it,
but it's like he's, he's sub toddler.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
There's a minute there.
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:Yeah.
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:, Man, I think one of the funniest jokes
in TV history comes from 30 Rock.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
It is entirely possible
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:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
It's, . Liz and Jenna, it's a
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:flashback of Liz and Jenna at a like
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
corporate improv retreat back
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:when they worked at whatever
the second City analog is.
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:I don't remember the name of it.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
mm-hmm.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
And, uh, they're like pulling suggestions
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:out of a hat, and it's like a first
date between Sling Blade and Oprah.
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:And, and, and Tina go, or Liz
goes, I sure do love these fried
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:potatoes in her best sling blade.
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:And Jenna, deadpan.
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:No accent, no anything
Says, no, you don't.
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:Oprah.
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:It's so good.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Glow and I still occasionally
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:will just out of nowhere,
just go working on my night
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Geez.
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:Yeah.
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:It's such a good,
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Such a
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
so quotable.
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:Yeah.
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:I was very happy to go back
and watch a little bit of it.
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:It makes me want to go back
and watch a lot more For sure.
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:, Just 'cause it's so quick.
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:I feel like I was like, oh, we'll
watch a little 22 minute show because
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:time is kind of tight right now,
and it'll be a great little thing.
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:You know, it'll be like, oh, I'll just,
I'll do notes for like 45 minutes.
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:How grand is that gonna fucking be
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Mm-hmm.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: in
the time it would normally take to watch
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:in episode with, without notes of tv?
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:I will get my notes done,
please, and it's so dense.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
the fruitcake of, of sitcoms.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
A hundred percent.
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:Yeah, it is just, you're just chewing.
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:You just never stop chewing on this show.
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:I feel like I missed two thirds of
the jokes in my notes and I still
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:have like four pages of notes.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I, I like, I, I sometimes I'm able to
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:like, kinda like see the matrix code
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
like when it comes to the, the c plot
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:of this episode, which we'll get to.
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:It very clearly was just like pitched
that in the room and then every,
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:like for the next 20 minutes, it was
people just like telling writer jokes
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:to each other and it's just like
we're just shooting all of those.
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:We're just using every single bit of it.
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:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Is Alec Baldwin the C plot?
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Okay.
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:It's hard to say because
there's like a D plot and e plot
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:running around this episode.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
That's true.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
There's a lot going on.
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:, We should get into it though.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
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:We start off on the street, uh,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
a, uh, construction worker
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:cat calling the ladies
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, very convenient.
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:Jackhammer blurring out most of
what he says, but he makes some
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:rather obscene ish gestures.
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:It's like not directly obscene, but in
a way where you know it's obscene and
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:you have no idea what it is Exactly.
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:It's perfect.
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:Leaves it all to your imagination.
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:Very funny.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
But it is also one of those
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:things where I'm just like,
is this just a New York thing?
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:, I've just, I've never been in
the vicinity of a cat call.
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:But I'm also just like, okay, it's
typically construction workers in film
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:and stuff, and it's like if I see a
construction worker, they're a hundred
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:yards away from me working somewhere.
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:Like we're not all up in
each other's business.
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:Like you would be in a, you
know, compact city like New York.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: This.
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:This had to have been
a thing at some point.
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:'cause it is in the cultural zeitgeist.
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:I also admittedly not exactly the
target audience for cat calling.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
No, I, but like, I haven't even
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:like been there while somebody
cat called somebody else.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:How much time have you
spent at construction sites?
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
but
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Like That's the thing is
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:like, it's specifically the
construction worker cat call
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
yeah.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
it's, this is a trope a hundred percent.
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:Um.
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:I dunno where it comes from.
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:It probably originates in media somewhere.
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:There's probably a show
or movie that has it.
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:It's like in Taxi Driver or something, and
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
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:This isn't
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
we're just unaware.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
women never get like confronted or
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Ben, you total misogynist.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
it is just like I've, I've never seen
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:this thing happen and I don't know,
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:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
God, that should be the episode title,
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:just to fuck with search results
for your job searches in the future.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
know.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I won't because I'm a friend also,
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:I think you're editing this one.
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:Uh, the cat call is, . Liz comes to
Jenna's defense here just because she's
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:blonde and never closes her mouth.
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:And if you look behind, her
mouth is like half open with her
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:tongue kind of like stuck out.
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:It's so funny.
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:And he is like, no, I was
cat calling you Liz Lemon.
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:And she gets very confused to someone
who has never been Cat called.
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:, But she.
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:Shoots back at him, and the only
words we get are like infected penis
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
the jackhammer continues to go.
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:Doing the same trope, but turned around.
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:, benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
And Jenna reveals our
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:theme for the episode.
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:Oh, hey, you're getting cat called
because you are in a relationship,
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:you feel more confident.
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:And therefore people are noticing
and reciprocating that confidence
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:because when it rains, it pours.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, yeah.
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:She's currently dating Carol,
who is played by Matt Damon.
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:If you had forgotten that.
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:He's not in this episode.
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:, We go over to, uh, Jack and Avery Jessup
played by Alec Baldwin and Elizabeth
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:Banks respectively, who announced
that they're having a baby boy.
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:, Liz comments on how Jack's going to
be in Old Dad and how that was cool.
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:We get a flashback to her, raid
her dad's liquor cabinet taking a
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:bottle out and be like, this bottle's
perfect for my rock collection.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah, that is very much the
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:like, level of rebellion.
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:I,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
just like, yeah, I'm not going
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:out and getting into trouble.
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:We might, you know.
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:Rec a four wheeler, but that's it.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
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:, benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
But
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: oh.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
but we get, , Alec Baldwin
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:trying to be like, what?
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:No, 50 is the new 40.
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:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I'm not gonna be old.
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:Like, this is ridiculous.
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:Stop saying that.
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:. Then we also get our bit here where, , we
have the Phantom of 30 Rock running
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:around doing stuff behind everybody
because Kenneth, our Kenneth, the page is
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:temporarily not with the company anymore.
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:I,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: I
think he quit at the end of season four.
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:I don't remember exactly.
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:That was a story for a minute where
he was gonna go do something else.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
yes.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
But that doesn't stay away, and it's
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:just doing everything in the background.
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:We cut down to the Tracy here who is
waiting for the birth of his daughter,
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:but he is at work, but he is not
leaving his dressing room so that
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:he can be there instead of like just
staying with his wife the entire time.
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:Yep.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
don't be ridiculous.
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:You're fair.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Over in the writer's room, Pete is
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:having a problem with an editor.
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:This is Paul Giamatti.
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:, We see him throw some Chinese food at him.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah, , Scott, at it's Pete
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:character, he gets a lot of
food thrown on him this episode.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
He does.
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:I think that's in general that
happens to his character in this show.
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:I.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
that , Paul Giamatti is
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:rocking his ponytail.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:, He has the Liz to go down there and
handle it, but before she can, Jack
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:is in Liz's office laying on the
sofa, lamenting that he'll be 70
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:when his son graduates prep school.
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:He will never experience the
father-son bonding of realizing they
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:were at the same orgy at a castle.
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:, There's a fire drill.
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:Immediately after where Tracy, , mumbles
and gets separated from Grizz ending up
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:on a bus, as we see Chris Parnell's, Dr.
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:Ce, , is Tracy's wife's doctor
as she is about to go into labor.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:Now this is, this is one of
those things I love griz.com.
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:They are.
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:Uh,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, they're great.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
of my favorite characters from 30
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:Rock, just they are Tracy's Entourage
and Posse, and they are both just
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:infinitely more capable than he is.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, like how dead is Tracy
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:Jordan without griz.com
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:before he even gets to the show Many
times and then many times during the show.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
oh, for sure.
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:, But this is, this did remind me of just.
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:, Sometimes just following the flow
of people out of a place, like, oh
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:man, I was supposed to go the other
way to get to the parking garage.
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:sometimes just moving with the flow.
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:Uh, you think, oh man,
well it'll be easier.
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:I'll just, everybody must
know where they're going.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
hard way.
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:. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
We begin our C plot here.
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:Jack realizing his age and he will
not be around to pass on all of the
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:wisdom that he feels he must to.
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:His son begins recording DVDs so he
can help his son after his death or
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:an inevitable dissent into insanity.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Jack details his life.
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:, You know, they come from a family
of pro professional, what was it?
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:Professional whiskey, tasters and goblins.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Uh, he got a,
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
uh, county Steve in Ireland,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
yeah, , he got the handsome
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:scholarship to Princeton.
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:Princeton, and went to Harvard
where he was voted most.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
which with, with Jack Donnay.
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:Yes.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:Your so vain was written by me.
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:It's like so good.
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:Uh, Liz goes down.
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:Uh, go ahead.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
like, the easy joke is your
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:so vain was written about me.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Like, that is, that is the like,
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:you know, single level of the joke.
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:And they, I love that they,
they knocked it into like a.
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:Standup double with was written by
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: me.
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:The timing on it is so good.
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:Liz goes down to the editing bay and
we finally get some time with Giamatti.
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:His name is Richie.
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:He's where he's a Big Islanders fan and
a Civil War Reenactor, who was a, he's
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:just a real big fan of state's rights, Ben
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Y.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Ye indeed.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
a, a civil war reenactor for the South.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
which I mean, if you're gonna do a
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:reenactment, somebody has to be them.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
but it is also the sort of
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:thing where it's just like, I
don't know, man, you're cool.
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:Like.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I would be like a little
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:apprehensive about it initially.
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:And we've done some reenactment stuff.
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:You know, we, we, we, we,
there's some similar circles.
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:There's some overlap
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Oh
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
some of our hobbies there.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
with some Viking tattoos, you're like,
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:you just think vikings are interesting.
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:Oh.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:Like, is that actually your heritage Pro?
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:Just, just asking.
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:Uh, you know, just, just curious.
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:Uh.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
just think Medieval knights look cool
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:or, or do you have a Diaz Volt tattoo?
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:. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Right?
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:Yeah.
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:Are you a windmill tattoo
enthusiast over here?
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:Because I'm gonna need to know that.
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:Anyways, , she, , gets him
working on the TGS stuff.
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:, Tracy ends up on cash capital
trying to get to the hospital.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Man, I loved Cash Cab.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Me too.
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:What a fun show.
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:Did that guy end up being a piece of shit?
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:I have no idea what happened to him.
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:I feel like he vanished, but that
could be because his gimmicky game
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:show ended, or because he was a piece
of shit and I don't know, which I.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
It's.
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:hit or miss with game show hosts.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Hey, if, you know, get in
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:the Discord and let me know.
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:I'd say send me an email,
but I'm not gonna read it.
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:, Richie , brings up the TGS edits
to Liz here, along with a mix tape
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:of authentic Civil War era music.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:Do, do not listen.
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:Listen to it in, in, , around
your Black friends.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yikes.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
This just reminded me of the, uh.
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:The key and peel sketch where the
guy is realizing all the country
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:songs he knows are super racist.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:Uh,
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
actually did have this problem once where,
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:, there are two versions of the song Dixie.
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:There's Southern Dixie and Northern Dixie,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: okay.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
uh, and Northern Dixie is way down
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:south and the land of traders,
rattlesnakes and alligators walk away.
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:Like it's about how hey,
we're like coming down to.
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:Kick your guys's butt.
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:but if you are just like humming
it to yourself, nobody knows.
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:You're not singing the bad one.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yikes, Ben.
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:Just gonna say that collectively.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
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:It's, it's something I just, I
was thinking about like while I
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:had, you know, Northern Dixie in
my head because it's about, Hey,
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:let's and get Confederate butt.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, no, you've made your
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:feelings on Sherman quite clear
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Uh, really cool for about four years.
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:We don't talk about before or after.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
anyways.
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:. Liz, , learns that Richie has been
telling people that they are sleeping
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:together, , from Pete, Pete Refutes Liz.
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:When she goes to give him hell
though, saying he'll have to work
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:until 3:00 AM when he should be home,
which is a bar that's by his house.
414
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
415
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
That is the best name for a bar.
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:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Where you going?
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:I'm going home man.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
419
:Well, you'd say going to
home because it's a name.
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:So you, you could name
the bar to home, right?
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:So you're going to home.
422
:Uh, and also you could play
a lot of baseball there, you
423
:know, on the TVs or you know, if
you've got enough yard, I guess.
424
:And anyways, and the cash cab,
Tracy Logic's his way to answers
425
:in the worst possible way.
426
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
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:Just like really convoluted.
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:Um,
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
430
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
real well.
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:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
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:, Jack gives a lot more advice.
433
:And Ben, as our internet Dad,
434
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
435
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I thought this might be a good
436
:opportunity for you to leave some
advice for all of us in the future.
437
:So we're recording right now, so
I'm gonna put you on the spot.
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:I, I wish I had a drop or a bit for
this, but I would love for our internet
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:dad to leave us some advice right now.
440
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
All right.
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:Best just general piece of advice I
can give you as you're going life.
442
:It is really, really important.
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:You remember, one,
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:you have to find the line between asking
people about themselves and prying because
445
:if you're able to just meet people.
446
:F appear genuinely interested
and not like, Hey, I'm trying
447
:to get something out of you.
448
:People enjoy talking about themselves.
449
:They don't enjoy being interrogated
450
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
451
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
ma.
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:So make sure you are showing
interest in other people.
453
:Make sure you follow a thread
to a natural easy conclusion.
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:Ask, you know, two follow up questions.
455
:You don't say like, oh, okay,
what is your favorite movie?
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:Oh, what else have you
seen by, by that director?
457
:Oh, once you start drilling any further
than that, it starts to feel like, Hey,
458
:am I doing a self-defense thing here?
459
:Like, am I defending my point
of view, defending my thesis?
460
:You just give two follow up questions.
461
:People will be happy.
462
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, solid advice, Ben.
463
:, My dad had one always that he said
a ton when I was growing up, and
464
:that was the trick to carrying
on is not to get carried away.
465
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I I, that reminds me of, , don't be so
466
:open-minded that your brain falls out.
467
:That's what it is,
468
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Hmm.
469
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
just like, hey, like still gotta
470
:think critically sometimes.
471
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
472
:Don't Joe Rogan yourself.
473
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
474
:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
All right.
475
:, Kenneth, , gets sent away
as Liz gets slut shamed.
476
:, I don't know if everyone
knows she's had a boyfriend.
477
:This felt weird.
478
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
479
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: this
did feel a little outta place, which is
480
:why I brought stuff up earlier in the
show to talk about sitcoms not aging well.
481
:, But I will say they've got
Brian and Andrea from NBC News.
482
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
483
:That was so
484
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
This was hilarious.
485
:Witnesses report seeing K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
486
:This is so good.
487
:Uh.
488
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
But it's also just I've, I've also
489
:never been in a, a situation where
a rumor has flown that fast while
490
:also being interrogated by nobody.
491
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
492
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Where like do fly fast, know,
493
:in schools and workplaces,
but nobody's just like, sure.
494
:Are we sure Richie.
495
:Richie is hooking up with Liz Lemon, like
496
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Are we sure about that?
497
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Liz Lemon, famously awkward person.
498
:Um.
499
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
500
:I mean, I have had, I've had some rumors
about me, especially in the LRP circles
501
:when everyone's at the big event,
502
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Oh yeah.
503
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
uh, go crazy.
504
:Before, um, I was once paid very high
compliment by our friend, uh, Mr.
505
:Eric Scott Baker.
506
:And was recounting that to someone in camp
and I was a bit drunk and I described the
507
:compliment as verbally affiliating me.
508
:And about seven people over the next
four days came up to me to ask about
509
:the blowjob I had gotten from him.
510
:Like they had missed the actual
point of it entirely and it
511
:had just spread like wildfire.
512
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
And, and nobody was just like, I don't
513
:know that Jair would've been into that.
514
:Uh.
515
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
No, no one questioned it happening.
516
:They were just all like, I didn't, well,
I was surprised, but I mean, a go, you go.
517
:It's like, whoa, wait a minute.
518
:We need to really roll back here.
519
:Uh, that was a weird week.
520
:, Anyways, Liz is, uh, done
with this bullshit and she
521
:goes down and yells at Richie.
522
:Uh, he reveals that this wasn't an attempt
to try and hurt Liz or to try and involve
523
:her at all, but rather he asked if he's
familiar with when it rains at pours.
524
:He's trying to make himself more
attractive, , by being taken since he
525
:hasn't met any girls at those islanders.
526
:, Fan camps or civil war reenactments.
527
:My notes all caps wrong.
528
:Larp, bro.
529
:Trust me.
530
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
531
:Uh, glow at this point was watching
this with us and just goes, this guy
532
:has Big Ben Energy, and I'm like.
533
:What, I've never gone to
like a reenactment or an
534
:event to try and meet people.
535
:I, I don't like meeting people.
536
:I.
537
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Can confirm.
538
:Uh, anyways, , he reveals that he has a
crush on Donna and screams out her name
539
:from the other room a number of times.
540
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
541
:While she's in the background eating
a sub sandwich from the middle.
542
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Right.
543
:Oh my God, I caught that.
544
:What the hell?
545
:She's eating it the short way.
546
:Right?
547
:That would be if, if eating it the
long way is how if, because eating
548
:corn the long way is the joke.
549
:Right?
550
:So I guess that would be
eating the sub the short way.
551
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
552
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
And I wonder how many times that's
553
:happened in the background of
that show that I've never noticed.
554
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
it is one of those things where
555
:just like, oh man, this is like
an almost zucker brother level of
556
:just jokes, hidden behind jokes.
557
:'cause like you've got Paul Giamatti
overacting the hell out of this scene.
558
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
559
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
You didn't need to have background jokes.
560
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
But they did.
561
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah, but they did,
562
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Ugh.
563
:Uh, Tracy's wife manages to get
ahold of Kenneth while Tracy keeps
564
:getting questions right on Cash Cab.
565
:Jack keeps giving weird pieces of
advice, general knowledge or opinions.
566
:, We cut over
567
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
punching one of the writers.
568
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
punching one of the right.
569
:Yeah.
570
:, Kenneth is next seen at Tracy's wife's
side wearing a Tracy mask and a jacket
571
:the same color as Tracy's shirt.
572
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes,
573
:, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Trying to save his marriage while
574
:Liz dramatically gets broken up
with by Richie in front of Donna.
575
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
and I loved the subtlety
576
:of Paul Giamatti mouthing.
577
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Oh yeah.
578
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Liz's lines back to her where it's
579
:just like, it is, it is great watching
these like two very good professional,
580
:you know, actors to be terrible actors
581
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah,
582
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
where it,
583
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
someone else who loves unicorns
584
:and has a pinball machine.
585
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
uh, what is it?
586
:, I am sad.
587
:I'm going to miss out on that waterbed.
588
:That you are saving up for, where he's
like, this guy's an editor for NBC.
589
:Like he should be making enough
money to buy a water bed.
590
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
There's a lot of jokes that everyone
591
:who isn't Tracy or Jenna makes
peanuts in this show, and I'm
592
:sure that is very much on purpose.
593
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I, I know.
594
:So parts of this are inspired by, , SNL,
like their actual experiences, and
595
:that is one thing I've heard where
it's like people have been hired
596
:because they were a writing team, which
597
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Mm-hmm.
598
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
get paid like one writer's worth
599
:of salary for the two of them.
600
:And so it's their way of like
getting two for the price of one.
601
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh,
602
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah.
603
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
604
:. Tracy arrives and kind of
like pushes Kenneth away and
605
:is there and just takes over.
606
:It's a really great moment as Kenneth like
slides away on the floor to be unnoticed.
607
:, Jack's last piece of advice is if
he, something is in a situation
608
:that is not described and he needs
advice to find Liz Lemon and whatever
609
:she suggests, do the opposite.
610
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yes.
611
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Kenneth Rejoins, the page program and
612
:Jack visits Tracy, , where he learns he's
actually having a baby girl to credits.
613
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Did you see the not see
614
:the post credit scene?
615
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: No.
616
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Oh yeah.
617
:, Right shortly after the credit
start, , it cuts back to Jack doing
618
:another video and it's , alright.
619
:. Seeing as you will be a girl, , I
have somebody here to mentor you.
620
:And , it's Liz.
621
:And she just gives some of the
worst, like worst advice, , Hey,
622
:everybody, boy or girl has a certain
amount of face, , hair on their face.
623
:That's okay.
624
:so often I like to get a nice straight
razor shave and just , like we went from
625
:like truth to , you don't need to do that.
626
:Liz Lemon.
627
:. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Will actively make it worse.
628
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
If
629
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Um.
630
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
late on, , doing your laundry,
631
:, swimsuits can be worn as underwear.
632
:It's just like,
633
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Oh no.
634
:Does, does 30 Rock Do?
635
:Is there Always After credit scenes
636
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
not always.
637
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
is often,
638
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I think so.
639
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: oh
man, I think I've missed that entirely.
640
:Oh, okay.
641
:Well now I really gotta rewatch 30 Rock.
642
:Okay.
643
:I learned a thing.
644
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I love this show though, man.
645
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
It's so funny.
646
:It's so funny on so many levels and I feel
like most of the time I feel like watching
647
:something for notes takes away from
the overall experience of watching it.
648
:I did not feel that watching this show,
649
:, and the fact that we got through this
in like 20 minutes, . Makes me wonder
650
:if maybe this is the real podcast.
651
:Gold here.
652
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
It doesn't hurt,
653
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
654
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
you, it did make me like, man,
655
:there, I, I haven't watched through a
sitcom in a while and it's making me,
656
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Got the itch.
657
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
yeah.
658
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.
659
:Okay, well, uh, we'll be back next
week with billions fucking, hopefully.
660
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I need to
661
:know what the flaw in the death star is.
662
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, I haven't watched the episode yet.
663
:I'm going to be, , on a
work retreat this next week.
664
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
I,
665
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh,
and I think I'm gonna end up watching
666
:the episode on the work retreat.
667
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
do you at least have your own hotel room?
668
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: I
do have my, yeah, I've got my own room.
669
:Yeah.
670
:They, they rented two hotels for
most of the week, and everyone
671
:who works for my company in North
America will be in attendance.
672
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Oh.
673
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Just
about, I mean, there's a handful of people
674
:who won't be for a number of reasons.
675
:Um, you know, it's not like it's,
man, it's not super mandatory.
676
:Like if you had vacation planned
or you got shit going on, like.
677
:Whatever, but almost everyone who
works for the company will be there.
678
:So it'll be nice to meet a handful of
people who work in the other offices.
679
:Um, it will not be nice to be in Chicago,
680
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Mm-hmm.
681
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
uh, especially 'cause I'm not
682
:gonna have time for anything.
683
:Um, I have approximately like, I think 45
minutes of free time on the day I arrive.
684
:And that's because I'm
driving and not flying in.
685
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Okay.
686
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: It's
just like I have no time for anything.
687
:It's all literally, every, every
moment of every day is scheduled from
688
:breakfast through 2:11 PM every night.
689
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
pH.
690
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
And it's, I mean, the late night
691
:stuff is like, oh, we, we rented
out this bar and all of the drinks
692
:are on the company kind of stuff,
but still like, that ain't me, man.
693
:I'll go say hi, have a gin and
tonic, and then I'm gonna leave.
694
:Uh, so I don't know.
695
:We'll see.
696
:I have a couple of people that I'm
mostly friends with that are, happen to
697
:be coworkers at this point, so I might
end up hanging out with them a bunch.
698
:I dunno what's gonna happen regardless.
699
:Uh, you know, I feel like
that's an appropriate venue.
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:To, uh, spend that 45 minutes of
free time I have, because Lord
701
:knows it's gonna take longer than
that to get anywhere in Chicago.
702
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yeah,
703
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I'd love to go like Flick the Bean
704
:or something, but unless it happens
to be very, very close to me, I don't
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:think I'm gonna have an opportunity.
706
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Fair.
707
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: So
708
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
All right.
709
:Well you have fun in Chicago.
710
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
I will
711
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Hopefully you are done unpacking or
712
:at least done unpacking enough that
you can record with us next week.
713
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Yeah, consider this your countdown timer.
714
:I, I get back from Chicago on Friday, so
715
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
And all that we have left
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:now is some thank yous.
717
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: yeah.
718
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
So thank you ripe.
719
:Thank you for the use of, uh, your
song Goon Squad as our theme song
720
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Fuck yeah.
721
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
uh, just if you get the chance
722
:they are touring right now,
723
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Go see 'em.
724
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
'em.
725
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
Hell yeah, I go see him.
726
:It is a great fucking show.
727
:I can personally attest to that.
728
:Uh, you wanna jump on the Discord?
729
:You could jump on The Discord.
730
:Hang out.
731
:The Discords a great place to be.
732
:Uh, there's conversations
going all the time these days.
733
:It feels like, uh, really enjoy
the discord in our community there.
734
:Go ahead and join up.
735
:And we also have a phone number thing
to call, but Vic's the only one with
736
:the number and I don't fucking remember.
737
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
Yep,
738
:xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:
And, uh, I think that's it.
739
:benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:
that is it.
740
:So we will see you next time on.
741
:Last time on.