Episode 6

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3rd Jun 2025

LTO 30 Rock - The Fruitcake of Sitcoms

It is time for LAST TIME ON! The podcast for everyone who wants to watch all those great television shows out there, but who has the time for that? Our hosts don't, so they take the randomized highway down your favorite shows they haven't seen, and try to guess what happened... Last Time On!

On this episode: Ben gets away with stuff cause he's editing, and Xhafer falls victim to the rumor mill.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Hello and welcome to last time on.

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This is the podcast where we pick a show.

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None of us have ever watched,

skip some episodes, figure out

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what happened last time on.

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We're not doing that today.

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Victor is still moving.

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So it's Ben and I once again.

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, But we did find a thing to watch

that we were able to make happen.

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, We found an episode of 30

Rock with Paul Giamatti.

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He's in it for about five

minutes, but, but that's 30 Rock.

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, And thought it'd be fun

to just do this instead.

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, I did check a little bit.

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I didn't dig deep because I didn't want

to see numbers of episodes and stuff,

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but I did try to see if any of the,

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. Cast of billions were an entourage

and I couldn't, couldn't see that.

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We should be back to regularly scheduled

programming for the foreseeable future.

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Victor is moved in as of today

and is currently unpacking, so

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shouldn't be a problem going forward.

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Hopefully is unpacking to your

God when you're listening to this.

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On Tuesday.

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Victor, please be unpacking.

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But yeah, so we're watching 30

Rock Season five, episode two.

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When it rains, it pours today.

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Did you, have you seen 30 Rock Ben?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I have seen 30 Rock.

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I absolutely love 30 Rock.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

30 Rock is so good.

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There's like.

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In that timeframe.

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That was like the golden age of the

modern golden age of sitcoms, I guess.

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'cause there was a previous golden age

of sitcoms and then there was like the

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nineties where, you know, you had Seinfeld

and friends and stuff, but there was a

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generation of sitcoms where we had like

this, , scrubs was around the same time.

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How I met your mother

was around the same time.

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New Girl was around the same time.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

And of those shows.

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I know how I met Your

mother has not aged well.

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I think you've gone back and

tried to watch Scrubs and believe

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has said it did not age well.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Some bits didn't age well.

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But

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Scrubs is the show that,

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I have seen the most,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

uh.

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Back in college, I had the first

five seasons and myself and all of my

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roommates were watching through them.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

so if, you know, I was in the middle

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of season four, but my roommate was

in the middle of season two and he put

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it on, I just sat down and watched it.

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, So I've seen scrubs all the way

through s several, several times.

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, But there's a few bits

that don't age super well.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

it's not too bad.

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How met your mother's rough

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

by today's standards.

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, This show I have not gone

back and watched in about.

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Probably seven or eight years.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

well I did note in my, in my notes, oh,

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this is the first Alec Baldwin thing

I've seen since he killed somebody.

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Uh,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Oh yeah, that happened.

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, I will say New girl has held up excellent.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

good.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I, I've been casually enjoying a

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rewatch as Beth is rewatching it

right now as her current, uh, show.

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And I haven't seen anything

that's made me go, oh God, yet.

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So very, very happy with new girls.

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Still very funny, but

this show is hilarious.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes, I have always

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loved Tina Faye's shtick

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I, the only thing that like

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is cons, like concerning is

just like, is Tracy too dumb?

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Um.

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I don't know Tracy Morgan to

know if Tracy Jordan is too dumb.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

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It it, in this episode we'll get to it,

but it's like he's, he's sub toddler.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

There's a minute there.

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Yeah.

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, Man, I think one of the funniest jokes

in TV history comes from 30 Rock.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

It is entirely possible

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, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

It's, . Liz and Jenna, it's a

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flashback of Liz and Jenna at a like

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

corporate improv retreat back

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when they worked at whatever

the second City analog is.

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I don't remember the name of it.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

And, uh, they're like pulling suggestions

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out of a hat, and it's like a first

date between Sling Blade and Oprah.

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And, and, and Tina go, or Liz

goes, I sure do love these fried

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potatoes in her best sling blade.

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And Jenna, deadpan.

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No accent, no anything

Says, no, you don't.

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Oprah.

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It's so good.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Glow and I still occasionally

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will just out of nowhere,

just go working on my night

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Geez.

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Yeah.

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It's such a good,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Such a

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

so quotable.

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Yeah.

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I was very happy to go back

and watch a little bit of it.

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It makes me want to go back

and watch a lot more For sure.

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, Just 'cause it's so quick.

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I feel like I was like, oh, we'll

watch a little 22 minute show because

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time is kind of tight right now,

and it'll be a great little thing.

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You know, it'll be like, oh, I'll just,

I'll do notes for like 45 minutes.

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How grand is that gonna fucking be

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Mm-hmm.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: in

the time it would normally take to watch

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in episode with, without notes of tv?

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I will get my notes done,

please, and it's so dense.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

the fruitcake of, of sitcoms.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

A hundred percent.

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Yeah, it is just, you're just chewing.

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You just never stop chewing on this show.

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I feel like I missed two thirds of

the jokes in my notes and I still

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have like four pages of notes.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I, I like, I, I sometimes I'm able to

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like, kinda like see the matrix code

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

like when it comes to the, the c plot

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of this episode, which we'll get to.

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It very clearly was just like pitched

that in the room and then every,

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like for the next 20 minutes, it was

people just like telling writer jokes

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to each other and it's just like

we're just shooting all of those.

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We're just using every single bit of it.

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, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Is Alec Baldwin the C plot?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Okay.

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It's hard to say because

there's like a D plot and e plot

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running around this episode.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

That's true.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

There's a lot going on.

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, We should get into it though.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

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We start off on the street, uh,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

a, uh, construction worker

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cat calling the ladies

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, very convenient.

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Jackhammer blurring out most of

what he says, but he makes some

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rather obscene ish gestures.

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It's like not directly obscene, but in

a way where you know it's obscene and

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you have no idea what it is Exactly.

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It's perfect.

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Leaves it all to your imagination.

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Very funny.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

But it is also one of those

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things where I'm just like,

is this just a New York thing?

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, I've just, I've never been in

the vicinity of a cat call.

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But I'm also just like, okay, it's

typically construction workers in film

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and stuff, and it's like if I see a

construction worker, they're a hundred

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yards away from me working somewhere.

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Like we're not all up in

each other's business.

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Like you would be in a, you

know, compact city like New York.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: This.

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This had to have been

a thing at some point.

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'cause it is in the cultural zeitgeist.

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I also admittedly not exactly the

target audience for cat calling.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

No, I, but like, I haven't even

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like been there while somebody

cat called somebody else.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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How much time have you

spent at construction sites?

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

but

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Like That's the thing is

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like, it's specifically the

construction worker cat call

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

yeah.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

it's, this is a trope a hundred percent.

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Um.

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I dunno where it comes from.

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It probably originates in media somewhere.

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There's probably a show

or movie that has it.

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It's like in Taxi Driver or something, and

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

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This isn't

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

we're just unaware.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

women never get like confronted or

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Ben, you total misogynist.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

it is just like I've, I've never seen

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this thing happen and I don't know,

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, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

God, that should be the episode title,

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just to fuck with search results

for your job searches in the future.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

know.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I won't because I'm a friend also,

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I think you're editing this one.

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Uh, the cat call is, . Liz comes to

Jenna's defense here just because she's

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blonde and never closes her mouth.

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And if you look behind, her

mouth is like half open with her

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tongue kind of like stuck out.

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It's so funny.

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And he is like, no, I was

cat calling you Liz Lemon.

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And she gets very confused to someone

who has never been Cat called.

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, But she.

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Shoots back at him, and the only

words we get are like infected penis

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

the jackhammer continues to go.

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Doing the same trope, but turned around.

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, benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

And Jenna reveals our

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theme for the episode.

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Oh, hey, you're getting cat called

because you are in a relationship,

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you feel more confident.

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And therefore people are noticing

and reciprocating that confidence

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because when it rains, it pours.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, yeah.

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She's currently dating Carol,

who is played by Matt Damon.

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If you had forgotten that.

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He's not in this episode.

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, We go over to, uh, Jack and Avery Jessup

played by Alec Baldwin and Elizabeth

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Banks respectively, who announced

that they're having a baby boy.

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, Liz comments on how Jack's going to

be in Old Dad and how that was cool.

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We get a flashback to her, raid

her dad's liquor cabinet taking a

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bottle out and be like, this bottle's

perfect for my rock collection.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah, that is very much the

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like, level of rebellion.

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I,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

just like, yeah, I'm not going

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out and getting into trouble.

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We might, you know.

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Rec a four wheeler, but that's it.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

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, benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

But

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: oh.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

but we get, , Alec Baldwin

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trying to be like, what?

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No, 50 is the new 40.

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, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I'm not gonna be old.

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Like, this is ridiculous.

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Stop saying that.

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. Then we also get our bit here where, , we

have the Phantom of 30 Rock running

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around doing stuff behind everybody

because Kenneth, our Kenneth, the page is

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temporarily not with the company anymore.

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I,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: I

think he quit at the end of season four.

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I don't remember exactly.

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That was a story for a minute where

he was gonna go do something else.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

yes.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

But that doesn't stay away, and it's

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just doing everything in the background.

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We cut down to the Tracy here who is

waiting for the birth of his daughter,

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but he is at work, but he is not

leaving his dressing room so that

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he can be there instead of like just

staying with his wife the entire time.

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Yep.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

don't be ridiculous.

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You're fair.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Over in the writer's room, Pete is

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having a problem with an editor.

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This is Paul Giamatti.

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, We see him throw some Chinese food at him.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah, , Scott, at it's Pete

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character, he gets a lot of

food thrown on him this episode.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

He does.

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I think that's in general that

happens to his character in this show.

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I.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

that , Paul Giamatti is

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rocking his ponytail.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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, He has the Liz to go down there and

handle it, but before she can, Jack

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is in Liz's office laying on the

sofa, lamenting that he'll be 70

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when his son graduates prep school.

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He will never experience the

father-son bonding of realizing they

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were at the same orgy at a castle.

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, There's a fire drill.

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Immediately after where Tracy, , mumbles

and gets separated from Grizz ending up

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on a bus, as we see Chris Parnell's, Dr.

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Ce, , is Tracy's wife's doctor

as she is about to go into labor.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

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Now this is, this is one of

those things I love griz.com.

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They are.

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Uh,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, they're great.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

of my favorite characters from 30

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Rock, just they are Tracy's Entourage

and Posse, and they are both just

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infinitely more capable than he is.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, like how dead is Tracy

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Jordan without griz.com

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before he even gets to the show Many

times and then many times during the show.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

oh, for sure.

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, But this is, this did remind me of just.

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, Sometimes just following the flow

of people out of a place, like, oh

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man, I was supposed to go the other

way to get to the parking garage.

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sometimes just moving with the flow.

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Uh, you think, oh man,

well it'll be easier.

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I'll just, everybody must

know where they're going.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

hard way.

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. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

We begin our C plot here.

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Jack realizing his age and he will

not be around to pass on all of the

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wisdom that he feels he must to.

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His son begins recording DVDs so he

can help his son after his death or

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an inevitable dissent into insanity.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

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, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Jack details his life.

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, You know, they come from a family

of pro professional, what was it?

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Professional whiskey, tasters and goblins.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Uh, he got a,

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

uh, county Steve in Ireland,

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

yeah, , he got the handsome

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scholarship to Princeton.

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Princeton, and went to Harvard

where he was voted most.

311

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

which with, with Jack Donnay.

312

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Yes.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

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Your so vain was written by me.

315

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It's like so good.

316

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Uh, Liz goes down.

317

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Uh, go ahead.

318

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

like, the easy joke is your

319

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so vain was written about me.

320

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

321

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Like, that is, that is the like,

322

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you know, single level of the joke.

323

:

And they, I love that they,

they knocked it into like a.

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Standup double with was written by

325

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: me.

326

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The timing on it is so good.

327

:

Liz goes down to the editing bay and

we finally get some time with Giamatti.

328

:

His name is Richie.

329

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He's where he's a Big Islanders fan and

a Civil War Reenactor, who was a, he's

330

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just a real big fan of state's rights, Ben

331

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Y.

332

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Ye indeed.

333

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah,

334

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh.

335

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

a, a civil war reenactor for the South.

336

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

337

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

which I mean, if you're gonna do a

338

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reenactment, somebody has to be them.

339

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

340

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

but it is also the sort of

341

:

thing where it's just like, I

don't know, man, you're cool.

342

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Like.

343

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I would be like a little

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apprehensive about it initially.

345

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And we've done some reenactment stuff.

346

:

You know, we, we, we, we,

there's some similar circles.

347

:

There's some overlap

348

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Oh

349

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

some of our hobbies there.

350

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

with some Viking tattoos, you're like,

351

:

you just think vikings are interesting.

352

:

Oh.

353

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

354

:

Like, is that actually your heritage Pro?

355

:

Just, just asking.

356

:

Uh, you know, just, just curious.

357

:

Uh.

358

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

just think Medieval knights look cool

359

:

or, or do you have a Diaz Volt tattoo?

360

:

. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Right?

361

:

Yeah.

362

:

Are you a windmill tattoo

enthusiast over here?

363

:

Because I'm gonna need to know that.

364

:

Anyways, , she, , gets him

working on the TGS stuff.

365

:

, Tracy ends up on cash capital

trying to get to the hospital.

366

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Man, I loved Cash Cab.

367

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Me too.

368

:

What a fun show.

369

:

Did that guy end up being a piece of shit?

370

:

I have no idea what happened to him.

371

:

I feel like he vanished, but that

could be because his gimmicky game

372

:

show ended, or because he was a piece

of shit and I don't know, which I.

373

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

It's.

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:

hit or miss with game show hosts.

375

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Hey, if, you know, get in

376

:

the Discord and let me know.

377

:

I'd say send me an email,

but I'm not gonna read it.

378

:

, Richie , brings up the TGS edits

to Liz here, along with a mix tape

379

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of authentic Civil War era music.

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

381

:

Do, do not listen.

382

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Listen to it in, in, , around

your Black friends.

383

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yikes.

384

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

This just reminded me of the, uh.

385

:

The key and peel sketch where the

guy is realizing all the country

386

:

songs he knows are super racist.

387

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

388

:

Uh,

389

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

actually did have this problem once where,

390

:

, there are two versions of the song Dixie.

391

:

There's Southern Dixie and Northern Dixie,

392

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: okay.

393

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

uh, and Northern Dixie is way down

394

:

south and the land of traders,

rattlesnakes and alligators walk away.

395

:

Like it's about how hey,

we're like coming down to.

396

:

Kick your guys's butt.

397

:

but if you are just like humming

it to yourself, nobody knows.

398

:

You're not singing the bad one.

399

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yikes, Ben.

400

:

Just gonna say that collectively.

401

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

402

:

It's, it's something I just, I

was thinking about like while I

403

:

had, you know, Northern Dixie in

my head because it's about, Hey,

404

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let's and get Confederate butt.

405

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, no, you've made your

406

:

feelings on Sherman quite clear

407

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Uh, really cool for about four years.

408

:

We don't talk about before or after.

409

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

anyways.

410

:

. Liz, , learns that Richie has been

telling people that they are sleeping

411

:

together, , from Pete, Pete Refutes Liz.

412

:

When she goes to give him hell

though, saying he'll have to work

413

:

until 3:00 AM when he should be home,

which is a bar that's by his house.

414

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

415

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

That is the best name for a bar.

416

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Where you going?

417

:

I'm going home man.

418

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

419

:

Well, you'd say going to

home because it's a name.

420

:

So you, you could name

the bar to home, right?

421

:

So you're going to home.

422

:

Uh, and also you could play

a lot of baseball there, you

423

:

know, on the TVs or you know, if

you've got enough yard, I guess.

424

:

And anyways, and the cash cab,

Tracy Logic's his way to answers

425

:

in the worst possible way.

426

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

427

:

Just like really convoluted.

428

:

Um,

429

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

430

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

real well.

431

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

432

:

, Jack gives a lot more advice.

433

:

And Ben, as our internet Dad,

434

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

435

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I thought this might be a good

436

:

opportunity for you to leave some

advice for all of us in the future.

437

:

So we're recording right now, so

I'm gonna put you on the spot.

438

:

I, I wish I had a drop or a bit for

this, but I would love for our internet

439

:

dad to leave us some advice right now.

440

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

All right.

441

:

Best just general piece of advice I

can give you as you're going life.

442

:

It is really, really important.

443

:

You remember, one,

444

:

you have to find the line between asking

people about themselves and prying because

445

:

if you're able to just meet people.

446

:

F appear genuinely interested

and not like, Hey, I'm trying

447

:

to get something out of you.

448

:

People enjoy talking about themselves.

449

:

They don't enjoy being interrogated

450

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

451

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

ma.

452

:

So make sure you are showing

interest in other people.

453

:

Make sure you follow a thread

to a natural easy conclusion.

454

:

Ask, you know, two follow up questions.

455

:

You don't say like, oh, okay,

what is your favorite movie?

456

:

Oh, what else have you

seen by, by that director?

457

:

Oh, once you start drilling any further

than that, it starts to feel like, Hey,

458

:

am I doing a self-defense thing here?

459

:

Like, am I defending my point

of view, defending my thesis?

460

:

You just give two follow up questions.

461

:

People will be happy.

462

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, solid advice, Ben.

463

:

, My dad had one always that he said

a ton when I was growing up, and

464

:

that was the trick to carrying

on is not to get carried away.

465

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I I, that reminds me of, , don't be so

466

:

open-minded that your brain falls out.

467

:

That's what it is,

468

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Hmm.

469

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

just like, hey, like still gotta

470

:

think critically sometimes.

471

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

472

:

Don't Joe Rogan yourself.

473

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

474

:

, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

All right.

475

:

, Kenneth, , gets sent away

as Liz gets slut shamed.

476

:

, I don't know if everyone

knows she's had a boyfriend.

477

:

This felt weird.

478

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

479

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: this

did feel a little outta place, which is

480

:

why I brought stuff up earlier in the

show to talk about sitcoms not aging well.

481

:

, But I will say they've got

Brian and Andrea from NBC News.

482

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

483

:

That was so

484

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

This was hilarious.

485

:

Witnesses report seeing K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

486

:

This is so good.

487

:

Uh.

488

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

But it's also just I've, I've also

489

:

never been in a, a situation where

a rumor has flown that fast while

490

:

also being interrogated by nobody.

491

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

492

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Where like do fly fast, know,

493

:

in schools and workplaces,

but nobody's just like, sure.

494

:

Are we sure Richie.

495

:

Richie is hooking up with Liz Lemon, like

496

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Are we sure about that?

497

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Liz Lemon, famously awkward person.

498

:

Um.

499

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

500

:

I mean, I have had, I've had some rumors

about me, especially in the LRP circles

501

:

when everyone's at the big event,

502

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Oh yeah.

503

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

uh, go crazy.

504

:

Before, um, I was once paid very high

compliment by our friend, uh, Mr.

505

:

Eric Scott Baker.

506

:

And was recounting that to someone in camp

and I was a bit drunk and I described the

507

:

compliment as verbally affiliating me.

508

:

And about seven people over the next

four days came up to me to ask about

509

:

the blowjob I had gotten from him.

510

:

Like they had missed the actual

point of it entirely and it

511

:

had just spread like wildfire.

512

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

And, and nobody was just like, I don't

513

:

know that Jair would've been into that.

514

:

Uh.

515

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

No, no one questioned it happening.

516

:

They were just all like, I didn't, well,

I was surprised, but I mean, a go, you go.

517

:

It's like, whoa, wait a minute.

518

:

We need to really roll back here.

519

:

Uh, that was a weird week.

520

:

, Anyways, Liz is, uh, done

with this bullshit and she

521

:

goes down and yells at Richie.

522

:

Uh, he reveals that this wasn't an attempt

to try and hurt Liz or to try and involve

523

:

her at all, but rather he asked if he's

familiar with when it rains at pours.

524

:

He's trying to make himself more

attractive, , by being taken since he

525

:

hasn't met any girls at those islanders.

526

:

, Fan camps or civil war reenactments.

527

:

My notes all caps wrong.

528

:

Larp, bro.

529

:

Trust me.

530

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

531

:

Uh, glow at this point was watching

this with us and just goes, this guy

532

:

has Big Ben Energy, and I'm like.

533

:

What, I've never gone to

like a reenactment or an

534

:

event to try and meet people.

535

:

I, I don't like meeting people.

536

:

I.

537

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Can confirm.

538

:

Uh, anyways, , he reveals that he has a

crush on Donna and screams out her name

539

:

from the other room a number of times.

540

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

541

:

While she's in the background eating

a sub sandwich from the middle.

542

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Right.

543

:

Oh my God, I caught that.

544

:

What the hell?

545

:

She's eating it the short way.

546

:

Right?

547

:

That would be if, if eating it the

long way is how if, because eating

548

:

corn the long way is the joke.

549

:

Right?

550

:

So I guess that would be

eating the sub the short way.

551

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

552

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

And I wonder how many times that's

553

:

happened in the background of

that show that I've never noticed.

554

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

it is one of those things where

555

:

just like, oh man, this is like

an almost zucker brother level of

556

:

just jokes, hidden behind jokes.

557

:

'cause like you've got Paul Giamatti

overacting the hell out of this scene.

558

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

559

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

You didn't need to have background jokes.

560

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

But they did.

561

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah, but they did,

562

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Ugh.

563

:

Uh, Tracy's wife manages to get

ahold of Kenneth while Tracy keeps

564

:

getting questions right on Cash Cab.

565

:

Jack keeps giving weird pieces of

advice, general knowledge or opinions.

566

:

, We cut over

567

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

punching one of the writers.

568

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

punching one of the right.

569

:

Yeah.

570

:

, Kenneth is next seen at Tracy's wife's

side wearing a Tracy mask and a jacket

571

:

the same color as Tracy's shirt.

572

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes,

573

:

, xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Trying to save his marriage while

574

:

Liz dramatically gets broken up

with by Richie in front of Donna.

575

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

and I loved the subtlety

576

:

of Paul Giamatti mouthing.

577

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Oh yeah.

578

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Liz's lines back to her where it's

579

:

just like, it is, it is great watching

these like two very good professional,

580

:

you know, actors to be terrible actors

581

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah,

582

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

where it,

583

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

someone else who loves unicorns

584

:

and has a pinball machine.

585

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

uh, what is it?

586

:

, I am sad.

587

:

I'm going to miss out on that waterbed.

588

:

That you are saving up for, where he's

like, this guy's an editor for NBC.

589

:

Like he should be making enough

money to buy a water bed.

590

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

There's a lot of jokes that everyone

591

:

who isn't Tracy or Jenna makes

peanuts in this show, and I'm

592

:

sure that is very much on purpose.

593

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I, I know.

594

:

So parts of this are inspired by, , SNL,

like their actual experiences, and

595

:

that is one thing I've heard where

it's like people have been hired

596

:

because they were a writing team, which

597

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Mm-hmm.

598

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

get paid like one writer's worth

599

:

of salary for the two of them.

600

:

And so it's their way of like

getting two for the price of one.

601

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh,

602

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah.

603

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

604

:

. Tracy arrives and kind of

like pushes Kenneth away and

605

:

is there and just takes over.

606

:

It's a really great moment as Kenneth like

slides away on the floor to be unnoticed.

607

:

, Jack's last piece of advice is if

he, something is in a situation

608

:

that is not described and he needs

advice to find Liz Lemon and whatever

609

:

she suggests, do the opposite.

610

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yes.

611

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Kenneth Rejoins, the page program and

612

:

Jack visits Tracy, , where he learns he's

actually having a baby girl to credits.

613

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Did you see the not see

614

:

the post credit scene?

615

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: No.

616

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Oh yeah.

617

:

, Right shortly after the credit

start, , it cuts back to Jack doing

618

:

another video and it's , alright.

619

:

. Seeing as you will be a girl, , I

have somebody here to mentor you.

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And , it's Liz.

621

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And she just gives some of the

worst, like worst advice, , Hey,

622

:

everybody, boy or girl has a certain

amount of face, , hair on their face.

623

:

That's okay.

624

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so often I like to get a nice straight

razor shave and just , like we went from

625

:

like truth to , you don't need to do that.

626

:

Liz Lemon.

627

:

. xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Will actively make it worse.

628

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

If

629

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Um.

630

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

late on, , doing your laundry,

631

:

, swimsuits can be worn as underwear.

632

:

It's just like,

633

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Oh no.

634

:

Does, does 30 Rock Do?

635

:

Is there Always After credit scenes

636

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

not always.

637

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

is often,

638

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I think so.

639

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: oh

man, I think I've missed that entirely.

640

:

Oh, okay.

641

:

Well now I really gotta rewatch 30 Rock.

642

:

Okay.

643

:

I learned a thing.

644

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I love this show though, man.

645

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

It's so funny.

646

:

It's so funny on so many levels and I feel

like most of the time I feel like watching

647

:

something for notes takes away from

the overall experience of watching it.

648

:

I did not feel that watching this show,

649

:

, and the fact that we got through this

in like 20 minutes, . Makes me wonder

650

:

if maybe this is the real podcast.

651

:

Gold here.

652

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

It doesn't hurt,

653

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

654

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

you, it did make me like, man,

655

:

there, I, I haven't watched through a

sitcom in a while and it's making me,

656

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Got the itch.

657

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

yeah.

658

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Yeah.

659

:

Okay, well, uh, we'll be back next

week with billions fucking, hopefully.

660

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I need to

661

:

know what the flaw in the death star is.

662

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, I haven't watched the episode yet.

663

:

I'm going to be, , on a

work retreat this next week.

664

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benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

I,

665

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Uh,

and I think I'm gonna end up watching

666

:

the episode on the work retreat.

667

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

do you at least have your own hotel room?

668

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: I

do have my, yeah, I've got my own room.

669

:

Yeah.

670

:

They, they rented two hotels for

most of the week, and everyone

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:

who works for my company in North

America will be in attendance.

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:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Oh.

673

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: Just

about, I mean, there's a handful of people

674

:

who won't be for a number of reasons.

675

:

Um, you know, it's not like it's,

man, it's not super mandatory.

676

:

Like if you had vacation planned

or you got shit going on, like.

677

:

Whatever, but almost everyone who

works for the company will be there.

678

:

So it'll be nice to meet a handful of

people who work in the other offices.

679

:

Um, it will not be nice to be in Chicago,

680

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Mm-hmm.

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:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

uh, especially 'cause I'm not

682

:

gonna have time for anything.

683

:

Um, I have approximately like, I think 45

minutes of free time on the day I arrive.

684

:

And that's because I'm

driving and not flying in.

685

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Okay.

686

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: It's

just like I have no time for anything.

687

:

It's all literally, every, every

moment of every day is scheduled from

688

:

breakfast through 2:11 PM every night.

689

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

pH.

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xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

And it's, I mean, the late night

691

:

stuff is like, oh, we, we rented

out this bar and all of the drinks

692

:

are on the company kind of stuff,

but still like, that ain't me, man.

693

:

I'll go say hi, have a gin and

tonic, and then I'm gonna leave.

694

:

Uh, so I don't know.

695

:

We'll see.

696

:

I have a couple of people that I'm

mostly friends with that are, happen to

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be coworkers at this point, so I might

end up hanging out with them a bunch.

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:

I dunno what's gonna happen regardless.

699

:

Uh, you know, I feel like

that's an appropriate venue.

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:

To, uh, spend that 45 minutes of

free time I have, because Lord

701

:

knows it's gonna take longer than

that to get anywhere in Chicago.

702

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yeah,

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:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I'd love to go like Flick the Bean

704

:

or something, but unless it happens

to be very, very close to me, I don't

705

:

think I'm gonna have an opportunity.

706

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Fair.

707

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: So

708

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

All right.

709

:

Well you have fun in Chicago.

710

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

I will

711

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Hopefully you are done unpacking or

712

:

at least done unpacking enough that

you can record with us next week.

713

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Yeah, consider this your countdown timer.

714

:

I, I get back from Chicago on Friday, so

715

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

And all that we have left

716

:

now is some thank yous.

717

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552: yeah.

718

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

So thank you ripe.

719

:

Thank you for the use of, uh, your

song Goon Squad as our theme song

720

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Fuck yeah.

721

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

uh, just if you get the chance

722

:

they are touring right now,

723

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Go see 'em.

724

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

'em.

725

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

Hell yeah, I go see him.

726

:

It is a great fucking show.

727

:

I can personally attest to that.

728

:

Uh, you wanna jump on the Discord?

729

:

You could jump on The Discord.

730

:

Hang out.

731

:

The Discords a great place to be.

732

:

Uh, there's conversations

going all the time these days.

733

:

It feels like, uh, really enjoy

the discord in our community there.

734

:

Go ahead and join up.

735

:

And we also have a phone number thing

to call, but Vic's the only one with

736

:

the number and I don't fucking remember.

737

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

Yep,

738

:

xhafer--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195552:

And, uh, I think that's it.

739

:

benjamin-david-curley--he-him-_1_06-01-2025_195554:

that is it.

740

:

So we will see you next time on.

741

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Last time on.

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About the Podcast

Last Time On
Who's Got Time For All This Prestige TV?
Who has time for all this prestige television these days? Not us! That's why Ben, Victor, and Xhafer are going through "must watch" TV by skipping a random number of episodes in-between each viewing and connecting the dots on what happened. What happened Last Time On? What happen hurr?

Shout out to Ripe for our theme music, Goon Squad. Find them wherever you listen to music.

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